[redangus]

Actually in times of war some of our best leaders have been people who were misfits as kids. They don’t fit into polite society well, but gawd are they good commanders when it counts. Grant comes to mind as does Patton and Napolean. None were good with the polite society stuff, but they could win wars. As could Halsey, LeMay, Montegomery, Forest and others.

[DoughtyOne]

Within some paramters, I agree with your comments.  In the movies the scoundrel is played off as being a misfit their whole lives.  You don't see them attending college and knuckling down to obtain a degree.

What you see is them stealing, pulling all sorts of shady deals, and then taking over to lead a group with no self-discipline or education to make that possible.

Here's the part you left out of your comments.

Dwight D. Eisenhower - U.S. Military Academy - West Point
Ulyssis S. Grant - U.S. Military Academny - West Point
George Patton - U.S. Military Academy, a master's degree in international affairs from George Washington University and the Senior Managers in Government Program at Harvard University.
Bull Halsey - The U.S. Naval Academy - Also studied at the Naval War College in the mid 1930s
Curtis E. Lemay - Ohio State University where he studied civil engineering and was a member of the National Society of Pershing Rifles
Bernard Montgomery - Royal Military Academy, Sandhurst
Nathan Bedford Forest III - U.S. Military Academy - West Point