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Addiction--An Economy Dependent Upon Easy Credit
Return Of The Gods Web Site ^ | March 1, 2009 | William Flax

Posted on 03/03/2009 9:52:34 AM PST by Ohioan

What stands out most clearly, amidst all the panic inducing talk and extravagant promises, lately spewing from the mouths of Federal office holders & Central Bankers, is of a desperate need to keep America dependent upon credit--easy credit;--that what is most feared, in the seats of economic power in contemporary America, is a period in which people restrain expenditures for new goods and services, pay down debt and actually try to provide for the cyclical, as well as disaster driven, downturns that have always been part of the economic history of human nations.

The boom can last only as long as the credit expansion progresses at an ever-accelerated pace. The boom comes to an end as soon as additional quantities of fiduciary media are no longer thrown upon the loan market. But it could not last forever even if inflation and credit expansion were to go on endlessly. It would then encounter the barriers which prevent the boundless expansion of circulation credit. It would lead to the crack-up boom and the breakdown of the whole monetary system.

(Excerpt) Read more at pages.prodigy.net ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: credit; economic; market; saving
While the bias of the new Administration has--correctly--drawn great outrage from rooted American families, whose generations of achievement have been threatened by policies designed to benefit the most profligate among us, there is not enough attention being paid to basic economic values, which for generations--really millennia--have guided the provident and frugal, in building civilizations.
1 posted on 03/03/2009 9:52:35 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Thanks for a great post. It all boils down to common sense, but that seems to be in short supply nowadays. You simply cannot spend more than you make forever. Bills come due, sooner or later it has to be paid, either literally or in severe consequences.—JM


2 posted on 03/03/2009 10:03:24 AM PST by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Ohioan
Well, I did a sloppy job in copying & pasting in my excerpt, leaving out the attribution for the italicized quote from Ludwig von Mises:

To the sound money Conservative, this brings to mind the sixty year warning from the great Austrian exponent of market economics, Ludwig von Mises, who in Human Action, addressed "Interest, Credit Expansion & The Trade Cycle:"

I would plead my aging vision, but we have too much excuse making in today's society. I should have been more careful!

3 posted on 03/03/2009 10:04:01 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Jubal Madison
Thanks for a great post. It all boils down to common sense, but that seems to be in short supply nowadays. You simply cannot spend more than you make forever. Bills come due, sooner or later it has to be paid, either literally or in severe consequences.—JM

Yes! Very, very "severe consequences."

They are, in effect, mortgaging the fruits of generations of American labor and ingenuity, to bail out some of the worst forms of human folly.

4 posted on 03/03/2009 10:08:12 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

I agree. You and I see it, but we have the masses crying for their bread and circus. I am starting to understand what it must have felt like in the last days of Rome.


5 posted on 03/03/2009 10:13:57 AM PST by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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I agree. You and I see it, but we have the masses crying for their bread and circus. I am starting to understand what it must have felt like in the last days of Rome.

The American Left has succeeded, since the 1930s, in telescoping hundreds of years of Roman social history & decline into a little over two generations. Of course those crying for more dependence upon Government, today, are simply economically and historically illiterate. But in a period of social disintegration, the schools, media and politicians lead the parade down hill.

The remnant who are able to see the whole picture, need to step up now, as never before, or we will indeed, very soon go the way of Rome.

6 posted on 03/03/2009 10:23:18 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Jubal Madison
we have the masses crying for their bread and circus. I am starting to understand what it must have felt like in the last days of Rome.

Bread and circuses were pretty much ongoing from the first days of Rome. Circus Maximus was rebuilt in 50 BC to hold a quarter million spectators, and free bread was given out from 58 BC on.

The wildest excesses, debauchery and corruption of Rome were under folks like Nero and Caligula, when the empire was still rising, not falling, and managed to survive for centuries after. So, cheer up!

7 posted on 03/03/2009 10:38:36 AM PST by Dick Holmes
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Bread and circuses were pretty much ongoing from the first days of Rome. Circus Maximus was rebuilt in 50 BC to hold a quarter million spectators, and free bread was given out from 58 BC on.

While Rome was still ascendant in 58 BC, that was hardly the early days. I forget the year of the founding, but Rome was about 700 years old at the time to which you refer.

I think Mr. Madison's point, however, was that we were repeating Roman folly, and picked the bread and circuses as simply an example. One could list many others, including the increasing dependence on outsiders for things we used to do for ourselves, and a decreasing sense of our own unique identity. Rome died when the Romans--the original Romans--became almost an insignificant minority in their own land; at a time, moreover, when their sense of personal responsibility for its future had been in decline for a long time.

America is being destroyed by those who have promoted a loss of personal responsibility among our rooted population. All of our fundamental institutions were premised upon a population with a strong understanding and belief in their personal, individual, responsibilities for their own future, etc.. Most people at this venue understand the importace, but how many of their neighbors still do?

8 posted on 03/03/2009 10:55:05 AM PST by Ohioan
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Peter Schiff!


9 posted on 03/03/2009 11:48:37 AM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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Peter Schiff and every provident economic advisor since Joseph advised Pharaoh.


10 posted on 03/03/2009 12:41:04 PM PST by Ohioan
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RE :”Peter Schiff and every provident economic advisor since Joseph advised Pharaoh.

Now come on, Every voice we hear in the media and government (except Ron Paul) is that easy credit with little interest is the cure to ALL economic problems, until you reach zero I guess. The only complaints we normally hear about too high interest rates like that moron O’Reilly made about Greenspan back in 2003(hard to believe now.) You know what drives this? The endless human desire for an easy solution shortcut.

This is why Schiff is so popular now, because both parties see the bubble or inflation as being real economic growth and the bust as a finger pointing opportunity. Both parties are Keynesian

11 posted on 03/03/2009 1:17:45 PM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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Good points, although the fall of the Roman Empire has been blamed on at least 200 things, from powdered lead in the wine to Christianity, and the empire actually survived till the 15th century, the capital having moved to Constantinople. The city of Rome is older than the Empire, which was from 44 BC, or even the Republic, from 509 BC, but how much older is unclear from the surviving records.

Anyway, "bread and circuses" are from the very beginning of the Roman Empire, not the end. So, as I say, cheer up! The situation is often disasterous, but not serious.

12 posted on 03/03/2009 1:38:09 PM PST by Dick Holmes
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To: Ohioan

bttt


13 posted on 03/03/2009 1:44:59 PM PST by GOPJ (People who can't use the new WH phone system are trying to redesign half the US economy - Brooks)
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To: sickoflibs
Now come on, Every voice we hear in the media and government (except Ron Paul) is that easy credit with little interest is the cure to ALL economic problems, until you reach zero I guess.

It was easy credit that led to the "sub-prime" mortgage bust; easy credit that led to 30 fold leveraging of bank assets, and the burst financial bubble.

I would, of course, never disparage the media or our political geniuses in Washington, but frankly, the truth will out. There has been a tremendous dumbing down of those in journalism and now broadcast media, as well as in politics and the verbal arts, generally, over the past century. Just look at the dumbing down of political campaigns from the inspiring rhetoric of 19th Century orators like Webster, Clay & Calhoun, to the moranic 30 Second Sound Bite.

14 posted on 03/03/2009 2:03:12 PM PST by Ohioan
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You forgot dumbing down of public schools. Ask any kid if he learned about Po Pot and Khmer Rouge, Everytime I do asked young people the answer is no. Public school teachers are natural socialists.


15 posted on 03/03/2009 5:41:39 PM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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You forgot dumbing down of public schools. Ask any kid if he learned about Po Pot and Khmer Rouge, Everytime I do asked young people the answer is no. Public school teachers are natural socialists.

Yes, many are--particularly those who spout the NEA line. More serious than ignorance of South East Asian Communist atrocities, of course, for American school kids, is the totally distorted version of 20th Century American history that they are being indoctrinated in. You can account for the Obama election from that one fact, alone.

16 posted on 03/04/2009 10:01:22 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: sickoflibs
Let me elaborate a bit further on the "dumbing down" phenomenon. There is no mystery as to at least one causal factor:

With the explosion of job categories in the early 1900s, of new opportunities to advance family goals and interests, a significant segment of the intelligent family oriented youth in the rooted population were drawn away from the verbal arts into exploding new fields with better possibilities to improve family living standards. This impact, of course, by the very nature of the causation, fell most heavily on those most naturally Conservative, thus leaving the verbal arts to those, on average, less competitive, less intelligent, etc.. Thus we have poorer teachers, as you point out, as well as poorer writers, speakers, clerics, etc..

Of course, those in the dumbed down fields will tell you with a straight face that this is the most intelligent generation of Americans, ever. It isn't so, and is easily demonstrated to be not so, if one will simply compare work products.

17 posted on 03/04/2009 10:14:42 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

bump


18 posted on 03/04/2009 1:46:34 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

bump


19 posted on 03/05/2009 10:22:58 AM PST by Ohioan
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