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What Could Happen: The Collapse of Big Cities, Big Governments and Subsidies
Whiskey & Gunpowder | 2-27-09 | John Stott

Posted on 03/02/2009 3:17:56 PM PST by Jerrybob

I am not trying to be an alarmist, but I am worried about a lot of things. I just have to imagine what the chain reaction of the current downhill slide of the world’s economies can bring. Here’s what I imagine can happen in years to come:

Pensions will go bankrupt or be a shadow of what they were before, causing millions of retirees to be broke and maybe even hungry, with no recourse. Stocks and gold will probably cross at about 3,000. Robberies of banks and citizens will increase many fold, and make the streets of big cities dangerous. The danger will cause movie theatres, night clubs and restaurants to do poor business because of citizen fears of venturing out at night. Cars not in garages or in some way protected, will be subject to theft, break ins or stolen tires and parts, especially in big cities.

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The big cities, with their large numbers of out of work minorities, will become extremely dangerous places to live, and there will be an exodus to safer, small towns, by those who are able, even if it means selling a big city home at a sacrifice price, just to be safe. The infrastructure and utility providers in big cities may become insolvent or fraught with vandalism. Out of work minorities won’t be able to pay utility bills. Without electricity, gas, or water, even for a short time, life can be extremely difficult, and especially in a high-rise building or multi-storey apartment.


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To: Doug TX

we should declare on the swiss...they’re about due.

We’ve come for your chocolate, clocks and knives!


41 posted on 03/02/2009 3:57:05 PM PST by durasell
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To: Jerrybob

Search this site..keyword barter for the thread.


42 posted on 03/02/2009 3:57:41 PM PST by jusduat (wondering,questioning,searching)
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To: lookout88; Kackikat
There are several of late. Type "survival" in the search bar.

Primitive survival... goes beyond eating canned goods out of the can. Just saying...

43 posted on 03/02/2009 3:58:05 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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To: Jerrybob

I actually anticipate regional associations of states with similar interests, needs and goals.The Feds will try confiscatory taxationto service their debt load...state legislatures will start to recommend residents no longer remit to DC as DC can no longer send funds back to the states


44 posted on 03/02/2009 3:58:47 PM PST by mo
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To: jusduat; Kackikat

Do a search for “survival” in the keywords...there’s a lot out there.

And...this biggy...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts


45 posted on 03/02/2009 3:58:50 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: ProudFossil

ROFLMTO..absolutely, a couple of them in case it breaks...unless you have steel teeth..lol


46 posted on 03/02/2009 3:59:04 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Jerrybob

The first shots will occur about 2010.


47 posted on 03/02/2009 3:59:10 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Jerrybob

Fortunately there are many deer, turkeys, squirrels, and rabbits in the woods here in the country. Will not be pretty in the cities when the food can not get in. Time for some more wood in the wood stove.


48 posted on 03/02/2009 3:59:20 PM PST by richiep (Richie)
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To: Jerrybob; All

FWIW-here’s an account of Argetina after their financial crash 2001....all may not be roses rurally.....

http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2079&Itemid=2


49 posted on 03/02/2009 4:01:49 PM PST by mo
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

During summer.


50 posted on 03/02/2009 4:02:44 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Jerrybob

But but but.... my Congressman, Andre Carson (Muslim, IN) told me he would make social security “safe for seniors”

Wonder if he will pay my gas and mortgage?


51 posted on 03/02/2009 4:02:48 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: mo

The rural communities always suffer the most in an economic crisis.

It’s a matter of effective spending. Do you spend in areas where few are assisted or where many are helped?

Do you spend where people view themselves as survivalists and self-reliant or where there is an infrastructure to distribute what is needed?


52 posted on 03/02/2009 4:03:55 PM PST by durasell
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To: exhaustedmomma

I agree, but one comment post isn’t room enough to educate everyone, and many FReepers are prepared. It’s time to research if you don’t know how to make it without a grocery store and gas station.


53 posted on 03/02/2009 4:08:15 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: durasell

“self-Reliance” isn’t much use against bands of hungry maraudering inner city animals prowling the country-side looking for anything of opportunity.


54 posted on 03/02/2009 4:10:07 PM PST by mo
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To: Kackikat

Type the word “survival” into the keyword bar, ....there’s TONS of threads...and scroll back up. I GAVE you a thread link..


55 posted on 03/02/2009 4:10:21 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: Jerrybob

Don’t be so quick to jump to conclusions about what will be, or how fast it will happen.

I remember some wit who proposed that he was secure from any disaster, because he had purchased a whole pallet of ripe tomatoes.

The truth is that even a severe depression doesn’t happen overnight. The stock market crash of 1929 was followed by a year that looked like three separate times there was going to be a recovery. 1930 was tame indeed.

Even during the worst part of the Dust Bowl, when hundreds of thousands of farmers were displaced and hunger was widespread, one of the biggest agricultural problems in the US was overproduction. Wheat was 50 cents a bushel and corn was being burned for fuel. FDR ordered the slaughter of six million pigs, just to stabilize the pork market. Things got a lot better when they figured out how to get the food to the hungry people.

So what does the US have going for it right now? Three things. We have a powerful military. We have an amazing agricultural system. And we have lots of extra housing.

So if you have a place to live, and food to eat, and crime is kept down to a dull roar like usual, this is the bottom line for a “severe depression”.

Not a bad place to start an economic recovery from.

Most of what we will be short of could be called “luxuries”. Health care will no longer be “what we can do”, but “what we can afford to do”, which is still a lot.

There will be a lot less government as well. It will have to get back to just doing what it has to do, not what it wants to do.


56 posted on 03/02/2009 4:11:53 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: mo

If you’re distributing money etc., do you distribute it to remote areas with a sparse population density or to cities where there are corporate headquarters and power brokers?

Inner city folks tend not to prowl the countryside....


57 posted on 03/02/2009 4:12:30 PM PST by durasell
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To: raven92876

ping


58 posted on 03/02/2009 4:14:52 PM PST by stylecouncilor (The black man is keeping me down!)
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To: mo

Exactly what’s going to happen. Currency is going to crash by the end of the year. It’s backed up by nothing now that the jobs are gone. Hillary and Barack are promising anything to keep other countries buying securities.

I always wondered what it would take to get to a one-world currency. I don’t anymore. It’s either going to be 1000’s of currencies, or one currency.

The feds may pull out some slick non-lethal weapon that will have us all jumping through hoops. Only way I can see it happen, because if they need an army to pull this off, they won’t have one. Lots of hardware, nobody to run it.


59 posted on 03/02/2009 4:18:38 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Kackikat
...if you don’t know how to make it without a grocery store and gas station...

JIT (just in time) reality is gonna bite!

It is time alright... and the learning curve is rapidly approaching a steep, slippery slope.

60 posted on 03/02/2009 4:23:00 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should. Samuel Adams)
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