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Soldier mom plans to report for duty with kids
msnbc.com | 2-28-09

Posted on 02/28/2009 3:44:46 PM PST by Justaham

DAVIDSON, N.C. - When Lisa Pagan reports for duty Sunday, four long years after she was honorably discharged from the Army, she will arrive with more than her old uniform. She is bringing her kids, too.

"I have to bring them with me," she said. "I don't have a choice."


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: militaryfamilies; militarywomen; readyreserves
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1 posted on 02/28/2009 3:44:46 PM PST by Justaham
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To: Justaham
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29441874/
2 posted on 02/28/2009 3:46:59 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham; Justaham
I see she didn't learn anything from her first stint and this is all for the press.

She'll get BAQ at W/Dependent rates and she'll have to find a place to keep them during work hours. If she deploys she'll have to execute her family care plan.

3 posted on 02/28/2009 3:55:48 PM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: Justaham

the FOX version:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,502525,00.html


4 posted on 02/28/2009 3:57:15 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: A.A. Cunningham

“Individual Ready Reserve”

How can we take a newspaper seriously when they can’t even get an acronym it takes 15 seconds to look up on google right.

(IRR is inactive ready reserve, btw)


5 posted on 02/28/2009 4:00:13 PM PST by NLB2
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To: Justaham

If she was discharged and cannot serve why is she reporting for duty ?


6 posted on 02/28/2009 4:03:33 PM PST by lucias_clay
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To: Justaham

Which means she has no family care plan meaning she is discharged. General Patton didn’t have to put up with this, but now we have the volunteer “professional” force which is so much better.


7 posted on 02/28/2009 4:04:43 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: Justaham

Wasn’t this precise scenario one of the stronger arguments against allowing women to join the Army?


8 posted on 02/28/2009 4:05:58 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

If it wasnt it should have been.


9 posted on 02/28/2009 4:16:59 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Justaham
According to what I read on FOX, she got the call-up in December of 2007. Unless that was a typo, her husband has had A WHOLE YEAR to find a new job that will enable him to stay home.

This couple looks like a pair of snot-nosed putzes to me.

10 posted on 02/28/2009 4:17:32 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Think HollywoodÂ’s hit rock bottom? You forget how well they dig. (bighollywood.breitbart.com)
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A good reason to limit all obligations to a total of six years as used to be the norm. I got my Honorable DC two years after my four years active in the Navy were completed for a total of six years. I did two years US Army NG later on a two year contract. One year of drills and one year inactive. I got my Honorable DC from the Army when the second year had passed.

Having open ended no time restraint enlistment contracts is not healthy for the servicemember nor our military in general. The policy needs to be ended. If she joined in 2002 then 2008 should have been when she recieved a DC and the end of any and all including future obligations.

11 posted on 02/28/2009 4:22:24 PM PST by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: NLB2

Actually, in the Army, it is Individual Ready Reserve. :)


12 posted on 02/28/2009 4:22:54 PM PST by Cailleach
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To: A_perfect_lady
"Usually the only way that someone can get out of the deployment or get out of the military due to a family hardship is if they get into a situation where the kids will be put into foster care," Tarantino said.

Yes, it was 2007 so they've known for over a year. Sorry, but in cases like this where we all know she's just being a big whiny, the military should call social services. Of course her commander wouldn't get past, "Hello, this is..." before she came clean with a viable family care plan.

13 posted on 02/28/2009 4:24:57 PM PST by bgill
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To: lucias_clay

She has time on her enlistement contract. She had to serve so many years on active duty and upon release from active duty if one still has contractual time on the enlistment, they can go into a reserve unit that does the weekend drills or the IRR. In either case they are subject to recall. It is of interest to note, that while this does not happen often, those who are retired from the service may also be subject to recall.


14 posted on 02/28/2009 4:52:44 PM PST by celtic gal (I think the democRATs should change their logo from a jackass to a RAT with a long tail.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Call me old fashioned but I would prefer that women especially mothers didn’t serve in our military. Of course, if it was up to me (which I am sufficiently aware that it is not), I would prefer that women just stayed home barefoot and pregnant. LOL!


15 posted on 02/28/2009 4:54:55 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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To: Justaham

First of all let me say “not guilty”.

Second, she’s going to be very surprised the the base commander calls Child Protective Services and they haul her kids off to foster care.

Third, I believe when you serve your active time that should be it. I served 4 then had 2 inactive. I could have been called back but, luckily, I wasn’t. And I wouldn’t have liked it had I been.

Fourth, it should be like it used to be. Get pregnant-get discharged. If the army wanted you to have a kid it would have issued one.


16 posted on 02/28/2009 4:55:09 PM PST by Terry Mross (I Hate All Politicians, Republicans Included.)
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To: A_perfect_lady

They may be putzes for all I know but you cant judge that by looking at them. He may have had a whole year to find a job but in the current state of the economy, he may be lucky just to keep the one he has much less find another one. There are unemployed people who have been looking for work longer than that.


17 posted on 02/28/2009 5:00:37 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my children.)
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I’m not literally saying “They physically look like/resemble putzes.” I’m saying that they MUST have an alternative to taking two small children to Iraq. This is a grandstanding ploy and no mistake.


18 posted on 02/28/2009 5:24:16 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Think HollywoodÂ’s hit rock bottom? You forget how well they dig. (bighollywood.breitbart.com)
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To: Cailleach

Same thing in the Marine Corps.


19 posted on 02/28/2009 5:34:53 PM PST by FortWorthPatriot (Those who lack a needle on their moral compass can say anything and not see a problem with saying it)
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To: Justaham

” I don’t have a choice”

oh yes you do, sweeetheart. The army will make it for you.


20 posted on 02/28/2009 5:41:45 PM PST by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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