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You may call it class envy. I call it “fair is fair”. I guess you think it OK for someone to fire their employees just so they can maintain their own salary. “dog eat dog”, and “fend for yourself, who cares about anyone else”, right, buddy?

Actually, I do think it is OK! It is my money, my risk, I'm the one working 10-12 hours a day 6-7 days a week while my (ex) employee only worried about getting their check...talk a good game, but when the chips are down they want to get paid for that extra 15 minutes after taking an hour and a half for lunch, take their paid time off when I can't get a day off. When we need to canvass to bring in new customers..."sorry, I have to go pick up my kids." In the 30 years I've been a worker, manager and owner, no one has worked harder or longer. So what is fair??? I have been the first in and the last out and none of my employees have been as committed as I have. I don't think it is anyones place to deny me what I have earned.

If these employees had value, they wouldn't have been laid off. If the owners are trying to sell the company, they have to reduce expenses, and keep the intellectual capital (management and key employees) around for the buyer. It is really not that hard to figure out. If you don't want to get laid off...make yourself valuable. If not, go cry to your Obommy.

Have you managed to notice that those posters who complain are NOT attacking small businessmen and founders/entrepreneurs who are still working hard, but "professional managers" and/or those who are worth *billions* and have no conceivable need for marginal income?

There is such a thing as being compelled by conscience, without insisting that the state enforce things.

But when groups of people spend too long in their circle-jerk echo chamber, and justify excessive greed with specious arguments, rather than admitting *any degree of culpability whatsoever*, then *that* opens the door to the Obama-ites.

Nice try, though.

Cheers!

but when the chips are down they want to get paid for that extra 15 minutes after taking an hour and a half for lunch, take their paid time off when I can't get a day off. When we need to canvass to bring in new customers..."sorry, I have to go pick up my kids."

There is a reason for that: the employee sees an employer who refuses to pay them a decent wage. Why should I bend over backward to help someone out when I know it won't do me any good. I know, I've been there. Busted my hump for a company for 14 years, came in early, left late, Did jobs I wasn't required to do ("not in my job classification") because I believed it was the best for the comapny and what was best for the company was best for me. I knew things about that business that the President and CEO had no clue about. Who was more indespensible, him or me?
I never kissed butt, so eventually they got rid of me (along with other middle management-types). Two days didn't go by and they were calling me for help on things. Do you think I gave it to them? Not a chance! Treat you employees like crap and you get crap work out of them, treat them right and they'll make you proud they work for you and not someone else, that's what I'm talking about, not some low-life who's just looking for a paycheck (there are too many of those, I'll give you that!).