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Lt Starbuck. Lost in Castration
Big Hollywood ^ | 01 19 099 | Dirk Benedict

Posted on 02/26/2009 6:09:23 PM PST by GSP.FAN

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To: GSP.FAN
Excellent read and spot on! Thank you Dirk for speaking up for guys like me; I though I was alone in all this. Movies with wimpy men and strong women do absolutely nothing for me, so I believe they do not make movies for men anymore.
The absolute strength and righteousness of movie-portrayed women and the testosterone-deprived men depicted in todays movies are a complete turn-off. I really do wonder how real women feel. Do you like men like this?

Give me a Jason Bourne, or the old James Bond or Harry Callahan anyday!

21 posted on 02/26/2009 6:39:59 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: utherdoul
There’s nothing sexier than a woman who will drink with you smoke cigars and tear up a bar.

FIrst of all, women like that are what? 1/10th of 1% of the entire population?

Second, it's been my experience that women like that tend to want to wear the penis in any relationship and while that's obviously ok with you, would never work with me.

Sexy? hmmmmm

22 posted on 02/26/2009 6:41:11 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
And if they can alienate a science fiction aficionado like me of 40 years, they got a major problem.

I am right there in the escape pod with you.

23 posted on 02/26/2009 6:41:45 PM PST by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: jeffc
BTW, I had not been a big fan of the original BG as it was the "early" days of TV trying to do what they did on the big screen as far as special effects go, and it wasn't working; today they do a much better job of it ("24" anyone?).
So, I thought, when the new series came out, it would be better, as the idea of a lost society cruising around space looking for Earth was a neat idea, I thought I'd check up on it.
Whoa! First thing I noticed was a female Starbuck, and a swashbuckler at that, even more so than they let Dirk be one! Oh! So it's OK for a female to parade around like their full of it, but not a guy? Too un-PC, huh?
Quick, total turn-off, and after five minutes, I've never seen any part of it again and hoped it would die a quick and painful (yes, painful) death!
24 posted on 02/26/2009 6:46:08 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: utherdoul
There’s nothing sexier than a woman who will drink with you smoke cigars and tear up a bar.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I must say, any relationship with a woman like that just will not last . . .

25 posted on 02/26/2009 6:49:23 PM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: GSP.FAN
In the bleak and miserable “re-imagined” world of “Battlestar Galactica,”

At least it doesn't have a nauseating cutesy "Boxy" character, with a retarded "robot" chimpanzee pet.


26 posted on 02/26/2009 6:51:59 PM PST by holymoly (King Leonidas + Diry Harry = "Molon labe, punk.")
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To: Darkwolf377

It comes from Hollywood they have no idea of reality.


27 posted on 02/26/2009 6:58:38 PM PST by GSP.FAN
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To: GSP.FAN

I loved Battlestar Galactica years ago when a Cylon was an evil robot and Starbuck was a guy.
I watcher the first season of the crapfest that the SciFi channel tried to sell us, hoping it would get better. It never did. Actually, except for the various Stargate series, The SciFi channel never actually puts on real SciFi. It has degenerated into the horror channel and not very good horror at that.
They haven’t had a single original scifi idea in years.
The writing and shows have gotten so bad that I don’t even watch anymore.
I wish there was actually a real scifi channel to tune to.


28 posted on 02/26/2009 7:00:09 PM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: GSP.FAN

I love the new BSG - far better than the old one-dimensional BSG I loved in college.
The show is great - probably the best written program on television today.
And I like Starbuck as a woman. What? None of you have ever heard of women in combat?
Sounds like ol’ Dirk is pissed because he didn’t get a part in it like his co-star Richard Hatch.
And Hatch is good in this one - purely Machiavellian.
Love this show!


29 posted on 02/26/2009 7:00:40 PM PST by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: GSP.FAN

Dirk Benedict’s Starbuck was always an underrated, underappreciated performance especially alongside Richard Hatch playing his straight-arrow role to the hilt.

I hear many good things about the updated BG but a recasting of Starbuck would be tough to take...putting a woman in the role is more Star Trek-inspired diversity run amok.


30 posted on 02/26/2009 7:06:58 PM PST by relictele
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Today, nearly every action flick has a “combat chick” who regularly and consistently tosses 250 lb men around like a human Travis the chimp. We are constantly informed as to how their is no real distinction between men and women in ANY arena, and the implication that there might be a differential ability for men and women in the arena of hand to hand combat is sexist and discriminatory.

I have always believed that EVERYONE should maximize their defense capability, and as a police insructor and National Guardsman, I instructed my fellow women Officers and soldiers in hand to hand combat. After 3 decades of doing this, and speaking to innumerable others in the field, I acknowledged a nearly universal truth that even well trained and fit women are often at a disadvantage against strong, even relatively untrained men. That is simply a reality, and no amount of political correctness will change that.

I say all this to note the tension between modern mores and our traditional notions of chivalry vis a vis women. Of course a savage attack like Chris Brown’s is verboten in any era (unless you are an Islamonazi) but a challenge over a lady’s honor strikes me as so quaint in an era of cultural marxism and radical feminism ascendent.


31 posted on 02/26/2009 7:14:39 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: GSP.FAN; Grunthor

Starbuck, Hit it like a hammer ...She Nevah was a quitter ...Tasted like a raindrop. But politically correct? Not even close.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00MvN4npozw&feature=related#


32 posted on 02/26/2009 7:17:57 PM PST by tlb
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To: mkleesma

I think you are missing the point,it is not about the tv show.
It is about Hollywood....


33 posted on 02/26/2009 7:19:32 PM PST by GSP.FAN
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To: DMZFrank
lol

Ever see Laura Croft: Tomb Raider?

They send a dozen ninja veterans all armed to the teeth with uzi's and the usual ninja weaponry and she has a sword and a dagger or something like that.

Naturally she kicks all their asses in 10 mins, not even breaking a sweat.

TOtal drivel.

34 posted on 02/26/2009 7:21:04 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Don't blame me - I voted for Fred and am STILL a FredHead and will write him in!)
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To: GSP.FAN

The searchy thing works but it’s easy to overlook things. I post at least one duplicate thread per week, as the admin moderators can verify.


35 posted on 02/26/2009 7:21:48 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: mkleesma

While I appreciate your point of view (though I don’t agree with it), and think you’re right about Hatch and the sour grapes from Benedict, I can’t agree that this show is well-written. I saw the RAZOR movie and couldn’t believe the ending—how many times are we gonna see the “The bomb’s okay but the timer is broken—SOMEONE’s gonna have to stay behind!” thing?

Similarly, the shows that I’ve seen show a lot of cliches in new settings—is a cliche no longer a cliche just because it happens to a woman instead of a man, or in space instead of in a western saloon?

I think the show is trendily bleak, but the writing, while complex, doesn’t really go anywhere, imho.


36 posted on 02/26/2009 7:23:30 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Hope you're happy with your "send a message to the RNC" vote)
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To: GSP.FAN

It should be pointed out that Dirk wrote and published this article in *2004*. It be old.

The show was an admitted Bush/WOT bash in the third season, and I have always thought it was bleak and joyless. I don’t know why I still watch, but I think it’s way overrated. And, Kara Thrace is hideous and nasty.


37 posted on 02/26/2009 7:25:18 PM PST by Rastus
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To: GSP.FAN

I recently asked my teenaged daughter if she realized that all the shows she watched portrayed adult men as being idiots.

She was not amused.


38 posted on 02/26/2009 7:43:25 PM PST by George Smiley (They're not drinking the Kool-Aid any more. They're eating it straight out of the packet.)
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To: DMZFrank

yeah and if you oppose Obama on any policy point you are RACIST; yeah right-the libs can go away and leave me alone!


39 posted on 02/26/2009 7:52:22 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Darkwolf377
Such women in reality are rarely sexy (tho' SOME are).

Yup. You're right.


40 posted on 02/26/2009 8:27:23 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Yes, Gorbachev is better than Obama. At least Gorbachev admitted he was a Communist)
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