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Microsoft plan to ape Apple Stores just plain bananas
Baltimore Sun ^ | 02/14/2009 | David Zeller

Posted on 02/14/2009 9:38:57 PM PST by Swordmaker

It’s enough to make you rub your eyes, blink and squint to make sure you’re not hallucinating.

But it’s true. Microsoft plans to open its own chain of retail stores. On Thursday the Redmond company announced it had hired former Wal-Mart executive David Porter to make it happen.

Microsoft seems to think it can duplicate Apple’s retail success, using a chain of stores to improve the “Microsoft retail purchase experience” and to combat the stereotypes – artfully reinforced by Apple’s “I’m a Mac” TV ads – that owning a Windows PC is fraught with difficulties.

I hardly know where to begin, so let’s start with the first thing many people will think when they hear of a Microsoft Store: “Oh, just like Apple.”

Contrary to the goal of improving public perceptions, the announcement of a Microsoft-branded chain of stores screams “copycat” – historically one of the worst knocks against it. Not the best way to start rehabilitating your image, guys.

(Excerpt) Read more at weblogs.baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; applestore; ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; lowqualitycrap; macintosh; microsoft; microsoftfanboys
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To: dan1123
Good info, and I agree. Most of the complaints about Apple I see here at FR are based on lack of knowledge about the system (not all, but most.) Most of the complaints about Windows are because people are familiar with the systems.* After using Apple for my home business, going to my other job and dealing with Windows always brings back to me just how cobbled together the system seems.

*There are, of course, people who reflexively hate anything MS related, and they post general gripes about Gates, Ballmer, and the way Lyndon Johnson used to act all the time. I know, I'm one of them.

41 posted on 02/15/2009 2:29:19 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: dan1123

It is also good to have a physical interface with your customers in your biggest markets. If MS made the PCs that Windows runs on I could understand this move, but otherwise I think they will just piss off Best Buy and Fry’s.


42 posted on 02/15/2009 2:39:49 PM PST by neb52 (Currently Reading: Mensa Guide to Chess by Burt Hochberg)
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To: Richard Kimball

“I don’t know if Apple will come out with a web book, but the iPhone is unreal in it’s usefulness.”

It wouldn’t take much for Apple to get into the eBook business. Just come out with a expanded iPod Touch with a 6” screen and start selling eBooks on iTunes. iPhone/Touch is already the 3rd or 4th place device used for reading electronic books after Sony, Amazon and eBookwise. That says a lot considering that the other devices are designed for that purpose and are bigger screens. I wonder if Sony and Amazon worry at night the day that Apple does enter into this market. Not to mention that most eBook readers are very archaic hardware wise. Even the new Kindle coming out soon is way behind the iPhone in storage and processor. It makes one question how they justify their high selling price. In fact that is the only reason the eBookwise reader even sells. It is under $150.


43 posted on 02/15/2009 2:48:24 PM PST by neb52 (Currently Reading: Mensa Guide to Chess by Burt Hochberg)
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To: Richard Kimball
"What kind of adapter"

One of these. You can plug your regular headphones into it and still answer the phone and listen to the iPod.



44 posted on 02/15/2009 2:49:44 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser

Cool. Thanks much!


45 posted on 02/15/2009 2:50:17 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Richard Kimball

They are $5.50 from a seller named everydaysource. I’ve bought three of them so far. All of my friends with iPhones who see mine have to have one. I give them the one in my car and order another. Shipping is free and it takes about 3 days to get one.

The sound is good on both ends. My only complaint is that the wire is just barely long enough to reach my iPhone if it is in my hip holster.


46 posted on 02/15/2009 2:55:02 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser

Thanks for the info Poser.


47 posted on 02/15/2009 4:08:09 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Richard Kimball
After using Apple for my home business, going to my other job and dealing with Windows always brings back to me just how cobbled together the system seems.

The things I notice most about switching from Mac OS 10.4 and Windows XP are the memory build-up in XP that leads to sluggishness and a restart (whereas the Mac just goes in and out of sleep-mode for months without a hiccup), and window compositing with Windows vs. using the 3D card with Mac OS. It's painful to see a re-draw as you resize and move windows after moving from a mac. I think Vista handles this, but I haven't seen anything above Home Basic (which still has the compositing issue).

Moving from Linux, the first thing I see is the lack of a sane software repository with haphazard apps strewn about on the Mac, and strange cruft on every install for Windows. It seems like each platform gets something right, but a host of other things wrong. You would think that Microsoft was in the best position to fix all their issues, but they can't seem to bring themselves to force people out of old API's to break free.

48 posted on 02/15/2009 4:18:13 PM PST by dan1123 (Liberals sell it as "speech which is hateful" but it's really "speech I hate".)
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To: neb52
It is also good to have a physical interface with your customers in your biggest markets. If MS made the PCs that Windows runs on I could understand this move, but otherwise I think they will just piss off Best Buy and Fry’s.

And what are they going to sell? Their software and peripherals? Are they going to stock the exact same Dell and HP systems that other retailers already have? Are they going to copy Apple's "Genius Bar", and flood themselves with broken and infected systems to fix? How did anyone think this was a good idea?

49 posted on 02/15/2009 4:21:49 PM PST by dan1123 (Liberals sell it as "speech which is hateful" but it's really "speech I hate".)
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To: dan1123

“And what are they going to sell? Their software and peripherals? Are they going to stock the exact same Dell and HP systems that other retailers already have?”

Just like Apple does. They sell Apple computers and peripherals... Just like Best Buy and WalMart.


50 posted on 02/15/2009 5:13:26 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser

But are they going to sell HP, Dell and the other PC manufacturer’s hardware or are they going to just pick one? Also are they going to support those PCs?


51 posted on 02/15/2009 5:26:39 PM PST by neb52 (Currently Reading: Mensa Guide to Chess by Burt Hochberg)
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To: neb52
Apple isn't in the ebook business, but there are several apps out there that are very efficient book readers for the iPhone. Of course, there are the audio books, but additionally, there are several applications. One called "Classics" includes 15 classic books and is 99¢. The other has motivational books, like Think and Grow Rich, The Master Key, How to Win Friends and Influence People, and it is also 99¢, including the books. One uses a "page flip" when you tap the screen, the other has each chapter in a long scroll. The text is very easy to read, and even big enough for my 50+ eyes (a lot of paperbacks aren't.)

I think the big thing holding it up is that the book retailers don't want to get put in the same situation as the music and movie guys. They want you to pay $30 for a new book. I suspect the eReaders (haven't checked on them) are VERY oriented to attaching the text to the device and preventing people from letting others download their books. In general interest books that are public domain, for two bucks I got more books than I could read in a year. I prefer the size of the phone now, as it fits in my pocket. A bigger screen would mean I'd have to carry it, and possibly lose it. In summary, the only thing keeping the iPhone from being the golden electronic book that everyone's looking for is the copyright holders fear the cost of the books dropping too much.

52 posted on 02/15/2009 6:37:50 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Swordmaker
On Thursday the Redmond company announced it had hired former Wal-Mart executive David Porter to make it happen.
The sales slogan will be, "watch out for crashing OSes". ;')
53 posted on 02/15/2009 6:46:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Swordmaker

Oooh, look, some moronic troll put “lowqualitycrap” into the keywords again.


54 posted on 02/15/2009 6:47:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Swordmaker
"It’s enough to make you rub your eyes, blink and squint to make sure you’re not hallucinating."

Yup:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7dCuN6a1YE

Take that, Apple-- Microsoft Store employees line dance

"Now how ssswinging' are these folks? Mission Viejo Microsoft Store, November 12.

"If it looks like an Apple Store, that's because... well, um, Microsoft kinda borrowed an idea or two, and I'm not talking about the graphical user interface, or the mouse, or the windowing interface or... ahem. But line dancing retail-store staff? That's truly a Microsoft innovation, entirely its own. Because Microsoft is cool, and down with the vibe, man. Heck, even their word-processor is "Word."

"That's the Black Eyed Peas stompin' out 'Tonight's Gonna Be A Good Night,' by the way. Cool upon cool. That weenie 'I'm a Mac' guy's going home alone tonight, that much is certain, 'cause all the babes will be jumpin' PC Guy. They can't help themselves.

Category: Howto & Style"


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...The Category is a nice touch.

I'm transfixed. This is just astonishing.
55 posted on 11/14/2009 4:13:14 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: 4rcane

Windows 7 is great and Microsoft also still makes a great mouse, Intellimouse Optical.


56 posted on 11/14/2009 4:15:09 PM PST by DavidAccord
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To: CodeToad

Because everywhere MS products are sold and probably sold cheaper than what MS plans to sell in their stores. I am imagining things but didn’t they already try this about a decde ago only for it to end up being two stores that went belly up?


57 posted on 11/14/2009 5:32:34 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

OOOPPPPSSS that should be “Am I imagining things?”


58 posted on 11/14/2009 6:31:42 PM PST by chris_bdba
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