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Six Mysteries of Our Solar System: Its history raises a lot of questions
Softpedia ^ | 29th of January 2009 | Tudor Vieru

Posted on 02/06/2009 9:27:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv

The 4.6-billion-year history of our solar system is nowhere crystal clear, astronomers admit. Instead, it's filled with questions as to the origin of some of its most remarkable feats. Here is a top 6 of these mysteries, as compiled by New Scientist... Another thing that concerns astronomers is the existence of Planet X, a hypothetical celestial body that supposedly circles our Sun on an orbit somewhere behind Pluto. Experts say that the distance it revolves around the Sun can only imply that the planet is frozen, but say that it could be as big as Mars, or even Earth. However, direct or even indirect observations of this body are impossible to date. One of the bigger mysteries concerns the origins of comets. There are multiple theories as to where they came from, but a growing feeling in the international astronomical community is that none of them can accurately explain their origin, despite the fact that they had humans on their toes several times in history... [Since] 1992, when the first exoplanet was found... nearly 300 have been identified, but they all reside in solar systems that look quite differently from our own... The latest mystery concerns the future fate of our solar system. Since its inception, it has led a relatively calm and peaceful existence, developing its planets and consolidating the Sun, but some fear that a cataclysm is on its way, although no one can say for sure if, when, and where it will hit. And we're talking here about collisions between planets, or planets falling into the star in the middle, not merely comet impacts and other such things.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.softpedia.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: 2012; catastrophism; davidraup; eris; johnmatese; nemesis; nibiru; planetx; tyche; xplanets
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Six Mysteries of Our Solar System: Its history raises a lot of questions

1 posted on 02/06/2009 9:27:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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Despite the anti-catastrophism bias, worth reading these six short articles. Daffynition had already posted one:

Why are the sun and moon the same size in the sky?
New Scientist | 30 January 2009 | Marcus Chown
Posted on 01/31/2009 12:27:31 PM PST by Daffynition
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2175806/posts


2 posted on 02/06/2009 9:28:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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X-Planets
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3 posted on 02/06/2009 9:28:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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4 posted on 02/06/2009 9:28:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m sure this somehow supports YEC :-)


5 posted on 02/06/2009 9:36:48 AM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: SunkenCiv

...Savin’ fer later...


6 posted on 02/06/2009 9:37:28 AM PST by gargoyle (...Don't bring shotguns to UFO sightings, let the aliens land, they might be here to pick me up...)
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To: SunkenCiv
[Since] 1992, when the first exoplanet was found... nearly 300 have been identified, but they all reside in solar systems that look quite differently from our own...

Before the Creationists start claiming that that implies that our Solar System is somehow "unusual" and perhaps even "miraculous," let's all remember that the "different" appearance of those exo-solar systems is due merely to the so-called "observational effect." In other words: The detection methods our astronomers are currently using aren't capable of discovering solar systems resembling ours, but rather only "aberrant" solar systems with, e.g., Jupiter-sized bodies residing in inner-Mercurian orbits.

Regards,

7 posted on 02/06/2009 9:38:43 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: SunkenCiv

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/29jul_planetx.htm

“planet X” is not a theory. NASA announced its discovery in 2005, 20 years after it was located. And 10 years after building an observatory in Anatarctica capable of watching it.

If this 10th planet is “planet X”, the orbit it is on is elliptical, not circular, around our sun. Hence the calamity when its elliptical orbit swings from beyind the solar systemn and through our solar system, between planets if we are somewhat lucky. However, the forces exerted on earth by this planet (or possibly a binary system of a planet orbiting its own brown dwarf star), will be devastating, as will be the aftermath of comet-like debris

If nothing else, Planet X (aka, Eris, or Nibiru or God Planet etc) explains a lot of ancient lore that is strikingly similar in cultures all over the globe.

Time should tell fairly soon (later this year or next) if this is “Planet X” and if the effects will be a physical threat to life as we know it - or not.
http://www.december212012.com/articles/PlanetX_Nibiru/NASA_AND_PLANET_X.htm


8 posted on 02/06/2009 9:43:01 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: alexander_busek

>In other words: The detection methods our astronomers are currently using aren’t capable of discovering solar systems resembling ours, but rather only “aberrant” solar systems with, e.g., Jupiter-sized bodies residing in inner-Mercurian orbits.

Indeed, we could liken it to a man without glasses who is amazed at the clarity of blurs whizzing about him. (Previously he was blind.)


9 posted on 02/06/2009 9:55:11 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: mgstarr

Yes! If scientists are wrong about something, that’s proof they must be wrong about everything they ever said and besides that they are all evil!

j/k


10 posted on 02/06/2009 9:58:23 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: OneWingedShark

11 posted on 02/06/2009 9:59:13 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: silverleaf

Wrong.

The discovery of 2003 UB313 Eris, the 10th planet largest known dwarf planet
by Michael Brown
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/

[snip] ...The orbit of the new dwarf planet is even more eccentric than that of Pluto. Pluto moves from 30 to 50 times the sun-earth distance over its 250 year orbit, while the new planet moves from 38 to 97 times the sun-earth distance over its 560 year orbit. [end]


12 posted on 02/06/2009 10:03:11 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv; helpfulresearcher
direct or even indirect observations of this body are impossible

If it is impossible to either directly or indirectly detect this body, why is it even "hypothetically" believed to exist?
13 posted on 02/06/2009 10:03:57 AM PST by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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Here’s a good place for Cr/evo fights:

Solar System Secrets Solved
ICR | February 5, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.
Posted on 02/05/2009 11:30:17 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2179114/posts


14 posted on 02/06/2009 10:11:44 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Sopater

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/outer_planets_991014.html


15 posted on 02/06/2009 10:12:23 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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Spitzer Sees the Aftermath of a Planetary Collision | Universe Today | Jan. 10, 2005 | Dolores Beasley and Gay Yee Hill | Posted on 01/13/2005 8:50:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv

16 posted on 02/06/2009 10:13:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Sopater; silverleaf

...and

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20126932.200-is-there-a-planet-x.html

Probably I’ve posted something on John Matese (Google John Matese site:freerepublic.com).


17 posted on 02/06/2009 10:15:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
well, if everything I've read is “wrong” then there will be no planet/large body on an elliptical orbit which will bring it into our solar system to pass between Mars and Jupiter, on a plane under our earth - perhaps within the next 3 years

and if planet x is on a concentric orbit that stays way out beyond Pluto, we still won't know why the planets and their moons in the outer solar system are heating up and showing more volcanic activity

and there will be no need for that observatory built down in Antarctica in 1994 to search that part of the sky to watch it and Robert Harrington the (late) former Chief of the Naval Observatory got all excited about nothing and ran down to New Zealand and never came back for nothing

and we are spending $12 billion a year to develop satellite coverage over the poles not to watch for shift and measure magnetism fluctuations and undersea volcanic vents melting the ice caps from below- but will instead watch surface borne manmade carbon melt the ice caps from above

and what is supposed to start showing up in the sky visible to amateur astronomers this summer won't be that planet x

And people won't get all riled up by the fictional movie “2012” due out this summer

And 2012 will pass just as quietly as Y2K

and I will have some survival plans, skills and supplies to save for the next big tin foil hat scare!

18 posted on 02/06/2009 10:27:06 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Our solar system is very cool, and very mysterious in aspects.

I shot this image of Saturn not too long ago, before the planets rings lined up with earth.

Even though some atmospheric detail, and ring system separation can be seen, this image is not focused well or really clear, due to not really being set up for planetary work.

My setup is more for objects located far beyond our solar system.

But I must admit, it's a thrill every time I look at planets like Saturn, Jupiter and even objects like the lunar surface, where we can hop from mountain range to mountain range.

Canon 40D-10" Catadioptric SCT, at ISO-800, 1/8 second exposure


19 posted on 02/06/2009 10:39:33 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: silverleaf

The point is, Eris isn’t the fictional planet Nibiru (an invention of unintentional comedy writer Z Sitchin). It’s somewhat bigger than Pluto, and isn’t on the verge of entering the inner Solar System.

Nibiru doesn’t exist, although if Sitchin were correct, it would have swung through here in the late centuries BC. Instead, bupkis.

Harrington (who coauthored some interesting stuff with Tom Van Flandern) worked out possible locations for one or more of his hypothetical (rather than fictional) planets X, and knew that he’d have to conduct his searches from the southern hemisphere.

The southern hemisphere is mostly water, and doesn’t have the number of observatories that the northern hemisphere does. In fact, Matese’ argument that comet focussing indicates a large, way-out, unknown outer planet has been criticized by at least one astronomer as having resulted from not having enough data from southern hemisphere observers.

> what is supposed to start showing up in the sky visible to amateur astronomers this summer

I guess we’ll all find out together. And when we do, Sitchin followers and heirs and assigns forever will come up with some reason that it will happen later.

ZetaTalk: Whiplash
ZetaTalk | written Apr 14, 2004 | Nancy Lieder
Posted on 12/30/2005 5:47:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1549609/posts


20 posted on 02/06/2009 10:48:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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