KJ highest US poverty rate, census says [Kiryas Joel, New York]

Times Herald-Record ^ | January 30, 2009 | Matt King

[Daffynition]

KIRYAS JOEL — This village has always had the distinction of being a cultural and religious enclave, but now it can add another:

Kiryas Joel is the poorest place in the country.

According to the latest round of U.S. Census figures, released late last year, the village has the highest poverty rate in the nation, and the largest percentage of residents who receive food stamps. Only one other place in the 50 states has a lower median income. The median household income in Kiryas Joel is $15,848; in Carbondale, Ill., it's $15,799.

More than two-thirds of Kiryas Joel residents live below the federal poverty line and more than 40 percent receive food stamps, according to the American Community Survey, a U.S. Census Bureau study of every place in the country with 20,000 residents or more.

That makes the village poorer than crumbling big cities like Detroit and noted slums like East St. Louis, and by far the poorest place in the mid-Hudson.

The poverty rate in Newburgh, the next-poorest place, is 28 percent. Regionwide, it's about 11.5 percent. Places in the country with poverty rates similar to Kiryas Joel are mostly college towns with large populations of students who don't have full-time jobs.

Village officials did not return calls seeking comment, but an expert in Hasidic communities said the poverty figures are tied strongly to the village's religious culture and mores.

Pressure to have many children and the demand to send them to expensive private schools, combined with a low number of people who go to college or leave the village to get higher-paying jobs, produces a static and poor society, said Samuel Heilman, professor of Jewish studies at Queens College.

"This is a population that sees childbirth as a sign of high status and for women a fulfillment of their divine and socially sanctioned role in life," Heilman said. "They are also an insular community that see life on the inside superior to the outside."

The tendency toward large families is borne out in the American Community Survey data.

The median age in the village is 14.4, meaning half of its more than 21,000 residents is 14 or younger.

Also, the village has the highest marriage rate in the country, with 80 percent of women ages 15 to 50 being married.

[Tax-chick]

The connection between poverty and crime is fatherless “families.” Those who grow up living with a married mother and father are at a low risk for criminal activity, irrespective of family income.

[neb52]

Better way of putting it is that crime is culturally induced not poverty induced. A morally high community can be materialistically poor and crime free. What throws most people off on this is that most US communities are not homogeneous and thus have a mixed culture (or lack there of). This town is culturally homogeneous.

[Tax-chick]

Better way of putting it is that crime is culturally induced not poverty induced.

I disagree. "Culturally induced" is vague terminology that implies a complexity not supported by what is known about the men (overwhelmingly men) who commit crimes. They don't have nebulous cultural factors - they have no fathers.

[aruanan]

I disagree. "Culturally induced" is vague terminology that implies a complexity not supported by what is known about the men (overwhelmingly men) who commit crimes. They don't have nebulous cultural factors - they have no fathers.

There are plenty of kids who grow up with no father who never have trouble with the law. Those who are fatherless who also have the highest levels of criminality are those who grow up in areas where the concept of a family consisting of a father married to a mother with kids born in wedlock is foreign to the life and expectations of the inhabitants. That's a cultural trait. The trait doesn't induce criminality any more than having a weird first name induces criminality. Both codistribute with a culture that values doing whatever, whenever, in as easy a manner as possible with as little cost to oneself as possible, all the while trying to acquire a look of status through various types of bling (whether clothes or cars). Such a culture is deficient in dedication, deferral of immediate gratification, long-term goal setting, perseverance, reliability, and honesty, all of which are necessary to long term financial or career success.

[Tax-chick]

Excellent points which I will consider.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

I agree. It is not the state of not having a father, it is being in a subculture which does not value the traditional family. So we have an increasingly wealthy society (over the long term) which is trending towards increasing levels of barbarous violence.

[Eva]

Isn’t this the town where the Hasidic Jews live? I think it would be the next place to Gitmo to try the terrorists. Of course, these Hasidic Jews seem to consider themselves above and beyond the law, not really a part of the greater US society.