1 posted on
01/26/2009 7:22:57 AM PST by
Sopater
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2 posted on
01/26/2009 7:29:11 AM PST by
svcw
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3 posted on
01/26/2009 7:29:13 AM PST by
Captain Beyond
(The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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What I learned from reading this article:
1) That EducationNews.Org is most likely yet another front for the creationist movement.
2) That the author used questionable “mathematics” to “prove” that evolution is impossible - mathematics that he likely doesn’t fully understand himself, and that his students almost certainly don’t. Apparently teaching the scientifically widely accepted theory of evolution is a bad thing, but “proving” that evolution is wrong and thus only design (i.e. creationism) can explain the world using some debatable mathematics is A-OK.
5 posted on
01/26/2009 7:34:51 AM PST by
-YYZ-
(Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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Take the “OMG UR A RACIST” smears to the DUmp where they belong.
6 posted on
01/26/2009 7:35:11 AM PST by
steve-b
(Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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For the last five years of my full-time career, with the full knowledge (and dismay) of state and county school officials, as well as the ACLU, I demonstrated to my students that mathematics proves beyond the shadow of doubt that evolutionism is nonsense.... Near as I can tell, the biggest single group which does not buy into Darwinism is likely mathematicians and not Christians. Evolution is basically incompatible with modern mathematics and probability theory.
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Someone said: "Evolution is bad science, bad thinking, bad logic, and certainly bad theology".Society and public schools would be much better served by celebrating the real scientists such as Louis Pasteur orFrancesco Redi.Well, if someone said it, it certainly must be true.
9 posted on
01/26/2009 7:37:22 AM PST by
tacticalogic
("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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For the last five years of my full-time career, with the full knowledge (and dismay) of state and county school officials, as well as the ACLU, I demonstrated to my students that mathematics proves beyond the shadow of doubt that evolutionism is nonsense.I always get a kick out of it when some joker comes along and claims to have debunked - usually in his spare evenings - one of the most unassailable and comprehensive bodies of scientific work to have developed over the past few centuries. This nutcase seems to differ in that he has apparently made a full-time career our of it.
The article is laughable.
Regards,
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Meanwhile in the REAL world, Biology based upon an understanding of evolution has never been a more productive field in terms of knowledge and application.
11 posted on
01/26/2009 7:41:42 AM PST by
allmendream
("He who does not work shall not eat")
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a last ditch effort to salvage Darwinism....because somewhere someone has proven the theory incorrect in a peer-reviewed research article.
Must've missed sucha monumental verdict...
14 posted on
01/26/2009 7:51:08 AM PST by
ElectricStrawberry
(1/27th Infantry Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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He makes a lot of assertions, and yet doesn’t actually show in the linked Web page how “mathematics proves beyond the shadow of doubt that evolutionism is nonsense.”
He also seems to be unclear about which aspects of evolution he is trying to refute. Evolution itself (the emergence and spread of new genes in a population) is an observable fact - in the small scale observable in a human lifetime, as anyone who reads about antibiotic-resistant bacteria, or the development of copper-resistant plants around old mines will know.
So is he trying to disprove that speciation doesn’t occur? That the mechanism isn’t Darwininian ‘survival of the fittest’ selection pressure”? Or is he arguing about the origins of life (which is rather different to the evolution of life and should not be conflated).
I suspect that the author is a very good mathematician who is a bit confused about evolutionary biology.
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For the last five years of my full-time career, with the full knowledge (and dismay) of state and county school officials, as well as the ACLU, I demonstrated to my students that mathematics proves beyond the shadow of doubt that evolutionism is nonsense. I'm sure that many people have disproved the existance of God with similar mathematical rigor.
TEACHING MATERIALS
5. Book Of Pandas and People (Davis and Kenyon. Haughton Publishing. 1993)
It looks like that is the version referring to "design proponents" rather than the earlier "creationist" or the intermediate form "cdesign proponentsists".
20 posted on
01/26/2009 8:17:30 AM PST by
KarlInOhio
(On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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"In my state, West VirginiaUniversity has already placed a newspaper add listing events WVU will use to honor Darwin.Revealing consummate hypocrisy is the fact that WVU evolutionist professors are exposed as Debate Dodgers at http://www.lifescienceprize.org/."
Funny. A "Debate Dodger" is anyone who refuses to participate in his silly little contest. He goes on to conclude that this is proof that the ToE is dead. I found this statement rather telling:
A remaining next step is litigation to replace the evolution scourge from the public schools with the secular truth of devolution, the exact opposite and excluder of evolution.
23 posted on
01/26/2009 8:30:57 AM PST by
Boxen
(There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance.)
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A lot of oft-refuted creationist talking points all rolled into one insipid article.
Too silly and too anti-science for anything but a blanket rebuttal: Index of Creationist Claims.
25 posted on
01/26/2009 8:48:03 AM PST by
Coyoteman
(Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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26 posted on
01/26/2009 8:51:50 AM PST by
LiteKeeper
(Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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It sure doesn't take long for the atheistic darwinists to start foaming at the mouth! Truth and facts to these guys are like Light to the wicked.
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Thank God the bible never made mention of some kind of atomic, electrical, or chemical theory. We might still be living in the dark ages..
28 posted on
01/26/2009 9:14:17 AM PST by
Paradox
(When the left have no one to villainize, they'll turn on each other.)
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Also, "from trillions of observations by billions of observers for thousands of years, all life forms are fixed
" (pg. 20)In other words, evolution is the exact opposite of reality. All life forms are not "fixed" as this article claims. That life forms change was noted decades ago. The theory of evolution was devised to explain those changes. The article is lying--hoping to fool the gullible--when it claims all life forms are fixed.
Here is an example of that change:
Fossil: KNM-ER 3733
Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)
Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)
Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)
Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)
Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)
Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)
Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)
Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)
See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33

30 posted on
01/26/2009 10:04:04 AM PST by
Coyoteman
(Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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GRADE LEVEL: 7-8th Grade Mathematics
No reason for a serious reply so

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44 posted on
01/26/2009 5:42:55 PM PST by
Darwin Fish
(God invented evolution. Man invented religion.)
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