Posted on 01/24/2009 10:16:42 PM PST by Domandred
Buying a new house and today while we were over at the new place painting my wife backed our minivan into the next door neighbor's volvo. Great way to meet the new neighbors right?...ouch.
Anyways I was in the passenger seat watching right (wife pulled out left so I never saw the car).
When the police showed up the officer asked me for my driver's license.
I said "Sorry officer, I was a passenger, not driving, you don't need to see my driver's license." Yea she didn't like that.
The officer said "the DMV requires us to enter the driver's licenses of everyone in the vehicle that is involved in a traffic accident. I'll need to see it."
Being that the neighbors (including the guy across the street that wasn't involved at all) were all standing around now watching I decided to not press the issue as our neighbor approval rating is already sub-congress. I handed over my drivers license (reluctantly) and said "you really don't need to see my driver's license, but here it is anyways".
She tried to speak up some more and I said "it's fine you have it already it's done". Yea she didn't talk to me again.
I used to carry an ID on me (not driver's license) for times that I wasn't driving or planing on driving...like when I was planning on drinking, but don't have it anymore.
Now I know without a doubt that since I was not driving I had no legal obligation to produce a driver's license. The question is did I have to legally produce any ID or would name and such have been sufficient?
I seem to remember a supreme court case about this a few years ago.
OK. I would not have guessed that by the wording of your post! lol
Meaning?
Meaning?
Really? He asked and I answered.
I am having a fine day. If you disagree, fine. As for reasonable and polite, you read it differently than I did.
Under most circumstances, yes. Precisely that.
It’s too bad, but I believe it won’t be long until we all (everyone at age 18 or 16) will be required to carry papers (internal passports) and produce them upon offical demand. This will be necessary to deal with illegal immigration, terrorism, and the demands of the Commie Democrat Administration. (Though the Repubs will go along with it, and if there’s ever another Republican Administration they will keep the requirement in place.)
Actually this is the third time I've been requested to produce a drivers license (or ID) when I wasn't driving or doing anything illegal.
First time was similar to the thread linked above, I was walking and officer stopped me for "fitting the description of someone in a domestic battery call" where you going? what are you doing? etc etc. Second time I was biking and officer pulled me over. Both those times I refused.
This time I just didn't want to deal with it.
I’m tired, I guess. Sorry! You addressed that remark to someone other than the original poster!
I think the SCOTUS says there is a “right to privacy” carefully concealed somewhere in the Constitution under an emanation of a penumbra. Or is that right restricted to murdering defenseless family members?
I made the same mistake. Good thing I didn’t reply to it :)
“Do you think you have some God given right for anonymity in the U.S.? “
Now that you mention it...YES.
This isn’t against the individual policman or how much they are paid.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
Divorce the pay issue from the freedom issue.
On the way to my apartment laundry house with a basket full of clothes, a cop cruising the parking lot stopped me asked what I was doing at two o’clock in the morning walking around(duh). He asked to see my ID and I stated it was in my apartment. He wouldn’t let me go get it and then asked for my SS#. He checked it. Apparently that was enough to ID me. He told me to be careful at night and pulled away.
“Next time, be polite and helpful and not a jerk”
I sure wish the Jews would have been more helpful and polite back in 41
“May the chains rest lightly on your back and may your posterity never know you existed.” Sam Adams.
Yes, your papers please.
I do believe an officer has the right to ask for the names of passengers as potential witnesses and for insurance purposes of the involved drivers. However, asking for legal ID of all adult passengers goes too far, IMO and is an invasion of privacy.
Sure officers come right in. What's that? You don't have a warrant? Not really looking for anything? Just want to make sure the house is clean?
No problem at all! Just trying to be polite and helpful.
IC, Get used to hearing, “Your papers comrade.”
People with your attitudes will bring us to that point.
Do you lick everyone’s boots that ask you to?
This is not Nazi Germany. Far from it.
Perhaps the policewoman just wanted to get the names of witnesses.
It is amazing the number of people on want no authority over them at all, but are appalled at the ease with which the 911 terrorist cells operated with impunity in the days prior to that event.
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