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Weekly Sci-Fi Thread (01/18/09)
1/18/09 | Kevin Davis

Posted on 01/18/2009 7:42:09 PM PST by KevinDavis

This weeks Sci-Fi Thread:
Tues:
9/8 -- Fringe -- Fox

Fri:
10/9 -- Battlestar Galactica -- SciFi


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: bsg; fringe; scfi; tv
Well I thought last weeks episode of BSG was great.. I just wanted to know if that is really Earth, or what happened, or what is going to happen, or what is Starbuck. More questions than answers..
1 posted on 01/18/2009 7:42:10 PM PST by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 01/18/2009 7:42:45 PM PST by KevinDavis (Thomas Jefferson: A little rebellion now and then is a good thing)
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To: KevinDavis

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3 posted on 01/18/2009 7:45:55 PM PST by Ancient Drive (will)
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To: KevinDavis

Friday’s ep of Battlestar Galactica was great. I was so frustrated that it could only be an hour long.

And Fringe is the best new Sci-Fi show— I just hope they stick a little more to reality or at least unexplainable mystery. That dude going through a wall and the other guy teleporting at the end of last year’s cliffhanger was kind of gay.


4 posted on 01/18/2009 7:47:19 PM PST by exist
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To: KevinDavis; exist

Can you explain why you thought the last episode was great? While I thought some of the plot twists related to “Earth” were interesting, they were soon destroyed by the incomprehensible behavior of various characters. It’s like the writers just make the characters do things to create plot twists without any attempt to have them flow naturally from coherent characterization or motives.


5 posted on 01/18/2009 7:58:04 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: KevinDavis
Somewhere along the way this show just lost it!!!
6 posted on 01/18/2009 8:13:43 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: Question_Assumptions

I agree that there was an excessive amount of scenery chewing over what clearly would have been a terrible shock, but they seem to have gotten it under control by the end of the episode. If they keep that tamped down, and untangle the questions that arose, it looks very good to me.


7 posted on 01/18/2009 8:23:15 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (All of this has happened before and it will happen again!)
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To: KevinDavis

I thought the acting was fantastic. It was very emotional.

It’s definitely one of the best shows on TV.


8 posted on 01/18/2009 8:36:31 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: KevinDavis
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9 posted on 01/18/2009 8:38:35 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: KevinDavis

I think what is going on with the Cylons is more interesting than all of the confused behavior on Admiral Adama’s BattleSex Galatica starship. And does anyone on that ship do any house cleaning chores?


10 posted on 01/18/2009 9:02:04 PM PST by StormEye
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To: luckystarmom

I think the acting on Battlestar Galactica is top notch. It’s the characterization and writing that’s a problem. I get no sense of most of the characters as real people because they whipsaw back and forth between people who have their act together and people who are totally falling apart and seem to have no consistent personality, values, or goals that maintain continuity across even a few episodes, never mind the show. It’s like they’re angst machines rather than real people. Maybe they’re all Cylons and that’s what a Cylon is.


11 posted on 01/18/2009 9:26:12 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: KevinDavis

Add me to this ping list..........Please

thanks


12 posted on 01/18/2009 9:33:48 PM PST by Nokia
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To: Question_Assumptions
Can you explain why you thought the last episode was great? While I thought some of the plot twists related to “Earth” were interesting, they were soon destroyed by the incomprehensible behavior of various characters.

That was the WHOLE POINT! You are traveling through space...there are only 50,000 of you left. Cylons are killing you off left and right. Before you know it...there are only 30K humans left and the only ray of hope you have to hang your hat on is finding Earth. You spend a couple of years zooming through space dodging cylon raiders...your best friends getting wacked left and right only to find a planet that is a radiological wasteland; not the paradise and new home you had hoped for.

Now...imagine that is you. How are you going to hold it together? How would you react? Some people will keep going...some people will react violently...and some people will chose to end it all (like Dee).

I thought it was a perfect testament to human nature. Their behavior would certainly be incomprehensible...their faintest of hopes were dashed.

13 posted on 01/18/2009 10:24:26 PM PST by NELSON111
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And the human response was more than appropriate in light of the circumstances. I loved the scene at the end when Adama arms up to walk to his bridge and he passes graffiti on the wall “Frak Earth”. The Dee actions were amazingly powerful.

However, the Cylons were what inhabited the planet was a major shark jump IMO. The whole point of the series was humanity earning its right to live again after its prior actions and playing Godd with creating a sentient being was one of them. All that to find out that Cylons existed thousands of years ago?

WTF?


14 posted on 01/19/2009 5:15:37 AM PST by misterrob (Smooth talkers win at singles bars and in politics .. often with similar outcomes for the listener)
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To: Question_Assumptions; KevinDavis

KevinDavis, please add me to the list.

I agree the characters seem to jump around quite a bit. The previous season had me scratching my head at times.

The final cylon was out of left field and really didn’t make a whole lot of sense. I can see why a normally ‘together’ person might lose it (Dee), but man, she was one of my favorite characters.

I am watching season 1-3 again in between new episodes.


15 posted on 01/19/2009 5:26:45 AM PST by Betis70
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To: NELSON111
Now...imagine that is you. How are you going to hold it together? How would you react?

Given that many of them spent quite a bit of time on New Caprica and know that the possibility of other planets to inhabit exist, not the way that they reacted in the show. The remaining survivors all experienced that "game over" scenario multiple times by now and know from the experience on New Caprica that that there might be other worlds that they could find to live on.

I thought it was a perfect testament to human nature. Their behavior would certainly be incomprehensible...their faintest of hopes were dashed.

Real human beings have experienced all sorts of disasters and I've read and seen plenty about how people react. While it's true that some people exhibit incomprehensible behavior during disasters, the people in the show have experienced so many disasters that dashed their faintest hopes that I find entirely new behavior from them unbelievable. The people inclined to give up have already had more than enough reason to do so.

The other problem is that the new behavior is always a slide toward being a self-centered pathetic jerk. Does nobody that survived have any nobility in them? As such, I think the show reflects postmodernism run amok (no good or evil or right or wrong -- only narcissistic self pity and despair).

16 posted on 01/19/2009 6:48:41 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: KevinDavis
My 2 cents about BSG

They are all Cylons, there never were any humans...

The survivors from Earth, left after /during/just before the war that destroyed the Earth. They founded the 12 colonies and set up a whole mythology about the "Cylons" being bad and adopted the title of Human and set Human up as being good.

This mythology faded into their past and was meant to keep "Human" from repeating the same mistakes over and over again...and of course humans forgot the past, and once again created thinking robots and the cycle began anew.

IMHO

BTW, I love the show, the acting is great, the twists are fun, the special effects are top notch.
17 posted on 01/19/2009 6:58:57 AM PST by The Louiswu (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!)
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