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1 posted on 01/16/2009 10:04:15 AM PST by nickcarraway
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America Newspapers and Media are all part of the propaganda machine. If you watch the tv media closely, all they do is read from the teleprotor machine. It’s all controlled; even the voting machines. Hitler couldn’t do a better job with the technology they have today.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=why+we+fight&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#


2 posted on 01/16/2009 10:06:34 AM PST by shielagolden
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3 posted on 01/16/2009 10:10:42 AM PST by Hatteras
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“The Enigma machine was taken on by the German military, starting in 1926,” Alexander explained.’

Most don’t realize just how effective the Enigma Machine actually was. Nor do they know it was the primary system, then the primary back up, for the US Submarine Force up through the early 1980’s.

The US Navy version had twelve rotors, as opposed to the German’s original Enigma, which I think had only three.

I know, I rewired em every month for three years between 1978 and 1981.

Way way ahead of its time, which makes the ‘breaking’ of it even more impressive looking back.


4 posted on 01/16/2009 10:13:51 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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Hogan’s Heroes was based in fact.


5 posted on 01/16/2009 10:20:41 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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One of the best takes I ever read regarding Enigma and Bletchley Park came from Stephen Ambrose. There has been a great deal of criticism of Eisenhower that goes something like this: If Eisenhower could read the German secret war communications, why didn't he use that to shorten the war?

Said Ambrose: He did.

13 posted on 01/16/2009 11:10:31 AM PST by stevem
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This same ww2 espionage secret has been “revealed” by the media every month for like the last 30 years.


14 posted on 01/16/2009 11:17:16 AM PST by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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As usual the press has it all wrong.

I became a history student, in 1976 after reading Anthony Brown’s “Body Guard of Lies”. It was possible to write about it then, because of the Freedom of Information Act.

For the next 9 years I studied WWII sig/intel. Cryptography is an interesting field. It’s impact on the War was huge.

Lots of good literature in the open for years.

Of course the press does not have a clue.


15 posted on 01/16/2009 11:31:39 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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for the military history ping list

I’ve found Enigma to be fascinating since Winterbotham’s book, “The Ultra Secret”. It’s a huge part of how we won the war — we were reading their codes and they weren’t reading ours.


19 posted on 01/16/2009 12:33:47 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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Ping for later.
21 posted on 01/16/2009 1:23:42 PM PST by ishmac ("There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories." Lady Thatcher)
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I knew a guy who worked intelligence in the Pacific; he actually did some work on the IJN codes. I once asked him two questions that he did not answer:

1. How much were the Axis able to penetrate our codes?
2. Did we read British and Russian traffic, and vice versa?

There are some things we just aren’t supposed to know, I guess.


22 posted on 01/16/2009 1:32:41 PM PST by henkster (When I was young I was told anyone could be President. Now I believe it.)
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