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Boy, 12, Found Guilty in Shooting Death of Mom After Fight Over Chores
AP ^ | 1/3/08

Posted on 01/03/2009 2:28:23 PM PST by libh8er

Edited on 01/03/2009 2:34:05 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

SIERRA VISTA, Ariz.

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KEYWORDS: clintonlegacy; crime; lawyerscum; scumbaglawyer; sucmbag
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To: libh8er

Yes, and the MOTHERS will be cheering for him/ with no sense in their marble-filled heads that THEY will follow suit at some point and are assuming that their offspring will not respond in kind.


21 posted on 01/03/2009 2:55:42 PM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: marajade
There was sworn mental health testimony that the youth was abused.

I don't doubt that at all. Sounds like a whole lot of abusing/neglecting was going on.

But the kid isn't docile, or sweet, unless mommy made a eunuch out of him. No human is, naturally.

/johnny

22 posted on 01/03/2009 2:55:42 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JillValentine
I play shoot ‘em up video games. In fact, my screen name is a character from one of those games.

Strangely, I’ve never shot my parents.

Agreed. There's many people who play violent video games who never go and engage in real life violence. Blaming [violent video games|violent movies|music with naughty lyrics] is almost always a red herring for bad parenting.

23 posted on 01/03/2009 2:56:58 PM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Kids learn behavior from their parents.


24 posted on 01/03/2009 2:57:01 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Kids learn behavior from their parents.

Yep. "Raise up a child in the way he should go, and he will not depart from it" comes to mind.

/johnny

25 posted on 01/03/2009 2:58:33 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: pnh102
And violent video games are not intended for 12 y/o's.

Are you following me here?

Several years ago, my Son borrowed a game from a friend. I watched for a few moments and after his "character" picked up a hooker to get "regenerated" I asked him what it was. His response? You probably already know. Grand Theft Auto. I put it down the garbage disposal. The friends parents were pissed to say the least. I told them to sue me.

Parents have all the control they choose to have.
26 posted on 01/03/2009 3:03:09 PM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: marajade; Libh8r
The judge seems to believe he can be rehabilitated.

Not the Judge Conlogue I know. The judge was given an opportunity to say that there was no premeditation involved; he did not. He found the kid guilty of first degree murder.

He's bound by law to sentence him to no more than confinement until he's 18. That's juvenile law in Arizona.

27 posted on 01/03/2009 3:08:59 PM PST by HiJinx (~ Support our Troops ~ www.americasupportsyou.mil ~)
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To: libh8er

The boy’s lawyer, Sanford Edleman, had argued that the boy did not intend to kill his mother but only wanted to get back at her for abusing him.

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I guess that’s why he only shot her 8 times.

It says the woman’s shack-up witnessed the murder. Why did he not try to stop it?


28 posted on 01/03/2009 3:09:53 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012!)
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To: pnh102

Many kids get yelled at but they don’t end up killing their mom. I saw a boy about 10 yesterday. The way he was talking to his mother was terrible. If a child needed slapped in the mouth this one definately did.


29 posted on 01/03/2009 3:11:54 PM PST by CindyDawg (I)
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To: HiJinx

Don’t you have to be 14 or older to be charged as an adult?


30 posted on 01/03/2009 3:13:05 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: CindyDawg

Did you read the entire article? The youth has been physically and verbally abused by the mother.


31 posted on 01/03/2009 3:13:49 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
The youth has been physically and verbally abused by the mother.
From the article: "Police said the boy told them his mother yelled at him and slapped him."

You call that abuse? LOL - you must not have been alive back when parents had rights.
32 posted on 01/03/2009 3:20:49 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: marajade

I read it. While I don’t think yelling is a good idea, because you lose control and often say things you don’t mean and get on the kids level, I don’t condider it abuse. As for slapping, I’m old school. If one of mine had cursed me I would have popped them in the mouth, no questions asked.


33 posted on 01/03/2009 3:23:15 PM PST by CindyDawg (I)
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To: oh8eleven

I know this a hard thing to do but click on the link and read the entire article. The second to last paragraph from the bottom.


34 posted on 01/03/2009 3:23:25 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: oh8eleven

The thing is that the little darlins can provoke you into yelling. You lose control and they win.


35 posted on 01/03/2009 3:24:28 PM PST by CindyDawg (I)
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To: CindyDawg

I think there is a difference between slapping and physical abuse. They had sworn testimony from two mental health professionals there was both verbal and physical abuse by the mother.


36 posted on 01/03/2009 3:24:39 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

How did they come to this conclusion? For these two there are probably two more that would disagree....regardless...that doesn’t excuse killing your mom.


37 posted on 01/03/2009 3:28:33 PM PST by CindyDawg (I)
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To: CindyDawg

Again children learn behavior from their parents.


38 posted on 01/03/2009 3:29:33 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: stentorian conservative

You know, in addition to banning guns (which are 50% of the problem) we should ban certain types of video games which are the other half of the problem.

/S


39 posted on 01/03/2009 3:31:03 PM PST by misterrob (Smooth talkers win at singles bars and in politics .. often with similar outcomes for the listener)
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To: marajade

I agree with that. No disrespect towards the mother but teaching anger management must start when they are young.
If you can’t control a child at 3 then it’s a lost cause, IMO, at 13.


40 posted on 01/03/2009 3:35:37 PM PST by CindyDawg (I)
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