Fort Mountain-Lost Worlds
Georgia's Ft. Mountain and Prince Madoc of Wales
maybe for inv. ping.
I always wonder why it is that all the “educated” folks refuse to believe what the people who witnessed something have to say. I guess some folks are just to smart to understand what their eyes tell them is true.
It’s a great park to visit, been there many times. About an hour north of Atlanta.
The Gahuti trail is a good day or overnight hike and will kick your tail! I never gave the wall much passing thought. Thanks for posting this.
Wow, interesting. I had no idea about this and I’ve lived in GA my whole life. I’ll have to go visit if I can
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Thanks BGHater!"There has been no archaeological evidence to back up stories that either this Welsh prince or any others came to explore the New World," said Jared Wood, the manager of the archaeology lab at the University of Georgia.That's staggeringly ignorant of him. |
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It has been long established that Prince Madoc came over to Mentone, AL. The ruins of the wall can be found there. It was part of our history lesson in the fourth grade, 1963 - 1964. History generally awards discovery to those who establish a “permanant” settlement AND to those who write the history books.
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As they say in Kentucky; “Cymru am bith”.
News Wales (UK) | 8/26/02 | Unknown
Posted on 08/29/2002 9:51:38 AM PDT by scouse
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/741385/posts
(Prince) Madoc In America
Arthur In America
Posted on 07/10/2003 5:56:52 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/943967/posts
Undeniable Evidence - Arthur’s Voyage To The OtherWorld (America)
Arthur in America
Posted on 07/11/2003 6:58:50 PM PDT by blam
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/944676/posts
Britons In USA In 6th Century - Shock Claim (Prince Madoc)
REweb.com | 11-26-2003
Posted on 11/26/2003 3:31:04 PM PST by blam
Edited on 11/20/2004 12:49:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1029625/posts
Explorer Madog ‘Never Existed’ (Prince Madoc)
IC Wales | 2-27-2004 | Darren Devine
Posted on 02/27/2004 12:12:09 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1086856/posts
Basques In The Susquehanna Valley 2,500 Years Ago?Back in the 1940s, Dr. W.W. Strong assembled about 400 inscribed stones from Pennsylvania's Susquehanna Valley. Called the Mechanicsburg Stones, they seemed to bear Phoenician characters -- at least Strong interpreted them as such. Naturally, Strong was ridiculed, for the Columbus-first dogma was dominant then. More recently, however, B. Fell claimed that the Mechanicsburg Stones are the work of Basque settlers circa 600 BC. The Basque theory has fared no better than the Phoenician. Now, a noted authority on the Basque language, Imanol Agire, has strongly supported Fell's conclusion that ancient Basques carved the stones.
by William R. Corliss
Spring 1981America B.C.A fascinating letter I received from a Shoshone Indian who had been traveling in the Basque country of Spain tells of his recognition of Shoshone words over there, including his own name, whose Shoshone meaning proved to match the meaning attached to a similar word by the modern Basques. Unfortunately I mislaid this interesting letter. If the Shoshone scholar who wrote to me should chance to see these words I hope he will forgive me and contact me again. The modern Basque settlers of Idaho may perhaps bring forth a linguist to investigate matters raised in this chapter. [p 173]
by Barry Fell
(1976)
find it in a nearby library
A Cherokee legend attributes the wall to a mysterious band of "moon-eyed people" ... who appeared in the area more than 300 years before Columbus sailed to America. ... but most professional archaeologists give no credence to the legend.Right Jared you tell them."There has been no archaeological evidence to back up stories that ... any others came to explore the New World," said Jared Wood ...
Oops ... better scratch that. 
The word "enclosure" is PC-speak for, "We're going to put our hands over our eyes and loudly shout, 'It's not a fortification because we're positive the indigenous people were peaceful and wouldn't need fortifications." They apparently believe primitive people had nothing better to do with their time than build heavy stone and wood "enclosures" to ensure privacy for their "social events" and to keep their animals from wandering off. It's the sort of willful ignorance that would make someone look at Fort Ticonderoga and call it a corral, enclosed pasture, or meeting hall.
In his book War Before Civilization (which goes into the willful ignorance at work in archaeology), Lawrence Keeley talks about being denied research grants to dig on ancient "fortifications" in Europe until he changed the word "fortifications" to "enclosures" on his research grant request. The map he provides of one of his digs proves the absurdity of interpreting the large palisades of logs as anything but a fortification, with arrowheads concentrated around the wall and particularly clustered around the gate, as you might find from an attack.
Hilltop fortifications were widespread across Wales and into England, in the correct period for this to be somewhat plausible. I tend to give at least some credence to native legends involving the encroachment of other peoples upon their territories. There is no obvious, compelling reason to lie about such things. Where the original truth might go astray is in attributing these hilltop fortifications to a specific Welshman by the name of Madoc. But, then again, there appears to be at least some corroboration. Native tribes are considerably more European, genetically speaking, than they should be, unless just this sort of encroachment had occurred.
Oh, and those hilltop fortifications were known variously as “Toothill,” “Totehill,” “Tuthill,” etcetera. The original English translation of the Bible, for which Wyclyffe was branded a heretic, had “watchtower” translated as Toothill ... “upon the Toothill of the Lord I am stondeth.”
The hilltops would have been kept bare of trees. Fortified for protection/defense, also used for astronomical/astrological observation and possibly for communication over distance, one to the next. Quite a bit of lore built up around them, ley lines and such. The one near London had quite a reputation as a pagan ritual site, but that might have come about in later years as a result of popular misunderstanding. Who knows.
Toothills are typically found atop natural high ground, but I think there’s one near Glastonbury that involves a barrow, a manmade hill. Left breast of the Virgo Effigy, if I’m not mistaken.
Sounds like Madeleine L’Engle.