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Two Jobs, One Question
Vanity | 12/14/08

Posted on 12/14/2008 7:36:10 PM PST by pabianice

A senior member of the United Auto Workers, working on a Detroit assembly line, makes approximately $3,270 a week in pay and benefits for a 40-hour week. After work he drives home to be with his family.

The commanding officer of a US Navy aircraft carrier makes approximately $2,900 a week in pay and benefits for a 80-100 hour week. On the job, unpleasant people he does not know will try to kill him. He has no "after work."

Please. Someone. Anyone. Explain to me again the UAW's angry rationale for their compensation demands.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: corruption; greed; uaw
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To: pabianice

Bogus comparison.
Factor in that the Navy guy gets housed/fed/medical and at least 30 days leave.


21 posted on 12/14/2008 10:35:25 PM PST by stylin19a ( Real Men don't declare unplayable lies)
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To: pabianice

Ya but the CO of the carrier get free food.


22 posted on 12/15/2008 3:16:51 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (Sara Palin: Americas' last, best hope for survival.)
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To: stylin19a
Bogus comparison. Factor in that the Navy guy gets housed/fed/medical and at least 30 days leave.

That's included in the $2,900 -- base pay, BAS, BAQ, hazard pay, hostile fire pay, and flight line pay. It adds up to $2,900 a week.

23 posted on 12/15/2008 5:04:35 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

sorry..thanks for setting me straight.


24 posted on 12/15/2008 8:07:24 AM PST by stylin19a ( Real Men don't declare unplayable lies)
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To: kittykat77
Whatever the autoworkers are making, the owners agreed to it; whatever the CEOs of the auto companies are making, the stockholders agreed to it. If you don't like union products, don't buy them. If you don't like what CEOs make, don't buy stock in the company...

And, of course, the next logical step in the progression is...if the Big 3 become insolvent and come to the taxpayers for a loan...don't.

Good enough!

25 posted on 12/15/2008 2:30:11 PM PST by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: gogeo
And, of course, the next logical step in the progression is...if the Big 3 become insolvent and come to the taxpayers for a loan...don't.

It seems like that would be the next logical step in the progression, but it isn't. That's because the previous two steps involve decisions made by citizens on an individual basis, ie, not buying union products or not buying particular stocks.

When it comes to Congress and the president approving or rejecting a bailout using taxpayer money, the decision making -- given our representational form of government -- is not made by citizens on an individual basis. As infuriating as it is, you do not get to vote directly on a bailout... or anything else on the federal level for that matter.* All you can do is vote your choice for the Senate, the House, and the White House and try and keep'em honest. That's the fun part.

*With the exception of Constitutional amendments, depending upon your state's laws.

26 posted on 12/15/2008 6:25:12 PM PST by kittykat77
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To: kittykat77
It seems like that would be the next logical step in the progression, but it isn't. That's because the previous two steps involve decisions made by citizens on an individual basis, ie, not buying union products or not buying particular stocks...

Really? Do you think Congress will approve an auto bailout a large majority of citizens oppose?

27 posted on 12/16/2008 12:25:14 PM PST by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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Really? Do you think Congress will approve an auto bailout a large majority of citizens oppose?

Got me laughing with that one! You never know with Congressmen because they play all sorts of percentages very, very well.

28 posted on 12/16/2008 12:55:30 PM PST by kittykat77
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To: kittykat77

Well, good luck with that. I suspect they will find they may win the battle, but lose the war.


29 posted on 12/16/2008 1:35:29 PM PST by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: kittykat77
Unions and owners bargain; when an agreement is reached, a binding contract that is valid for a specified period of time is signed. That's it.

Whatever the autoworkers are making, the owners agreed to it; whatever the CEOs of the auto companies are making, the stockholders agreed to it. If you don't like union products, don't buy them

No, that's not it! Not when the companies that signed those irresponsible bloated contracts come to me wanting to pick MY pockets to meet THEIR obligations. Screw them and screw the unions too.

Sensible people have been saying for years that the UAW was going to drive the big 3 into the ground. Well, now they've done it and they have no one to blame but themselves. let them go bankrupt and let the bankruptcy courts sort the mess out.

30 posted on 12/17/2008 9:41:54 AM PST by pgkdan
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