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IBM Creates 'Microsoft-Free' Desktop ( Server to run Linux)
Wall Street Journal ^ | DECEMBER 4, 2008 | WILLIAM M. BULKELEY

Posted on 12/04/2008 7:18:52 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Applications for Thin Clients Would Operate From Back-Office Server

International Business Machines Corp. is hoping to convince corporate customers that they no longer need Microsoft Corp.

IBM says it has created a "Microsoft-free" virtual desktop -- a complete suite of applications that run on a backroom server and don't require Microsoft software or costly desktop hardware.

The software package, available immediately, uses the Linux operating system and a set of IBM office applications that can be displayed on so-called thin clients, which don't have processing units or hard drives.

IBM, based in Armonk, N.Y., says pricing for the Virtual Linux Desktop would range from $59 to $289 per user, depending on what software and service level the customer chose.

IBM estimates that a corporate customer licensing the software would save $500 to $800 a year per user, compared with buying a license for Microsoft's Vista operating system, Office suite and collaboration tools.

Microsoft declined to comment.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: dumbterminals; hitech; ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; microsoftfanboys
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To: Moonman62

IBM seems to outsource their software to China and India and it shows. The misspellings, the failure to adhere to visual design standards, etc. all signal no one is wating what is produced at IBM, not more than anyone is watching at Microsoft.


21 posted on 12/04/2008 7:38:42 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: ComputerGuy

My observation:

Leaving the dumb terminal philosophy, and moving to Personal Computers — was the downfall of many a good companies.

In case you didn’t notice, now-a-days most employees spend more time on other endeavors on the Internet than they do on their jobs.

Sad, but so true.

The dumb terminals were perfect for getting business done.


22 posted on 12/04/2008 7:39:36 AM PST by i_dont_chat
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To: Durus
What “little guy” are you referring to?”

Microsoft? LOL!
If I remember correctly, IBM was like over a 100 times bigger than Microsoft just a couple of decades ago, and it was IBM that tried to quash Microsoft like a bug then, only for Gates to outsmart them. Time for IBM to move on.
It's a bit pathetic for IBM to be still trying to fight WW II, long after it's been over. Time for IBM to move on.

23 posted on 12/04/2008 7:39:41 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I remember one of their earliest attempts to compete with the big M.

PC-DOS


24 posted on 12/04/2008 7:41:21 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: i_dont_chat

You’re right about that. I figure that Solitaire is probably the second most widely used program in the average office, right behind IE.


25 posted on 12/04/2008 7:42:45 AM PST by ComputerGuy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Linux will never be more than a tinkertoy for aficionados and geeks until it becomes serious and centers on a singular version.

Right now, there are dozens of versions. That makes it nearly impossible to do serious computing because of the various flavors of support software.

Offices need compatibility. That is what drove MS to open up some of their code to competitors in the 1980s, when they were trying to dominate. Businesses told them to be compatible with other software or take a hike. They hiked for a while and lost allot of momentum. They did later regain it.

26 posted on 12/04/2008 7:49:26 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: DesertSapper

LOL!


27 posted on 12/04/2008 7:52:00 AM PST by Lx
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I recall just a few years ago IBM trying to unload a bunch of ‘new desktop computers’ that were little more than the old 8086 processers (IIRC).

IBM has always been about half-a-decade behind the tends/technology of the desktop market.


28 posted on 12/04/2008 7:53:28 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: js1138
return to mainframe computing

Which is the model for most internet and ERP applications. It works great for some things, terrible for others. Word processing and spreadsheets are in the other category.

29 posted on 12/04/2008 7:57:46 AM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: js1138

How do you get Office for $30? Even with a corporate discount and a student discount, I had to pay more than that.


30 posted on 12/04/2008 7:58:49 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
IBM estimates that a corporate customer licensing the software would save $500 to $800 a year per user

Yeah, but will cute animated animals sprout out of the servers?

31 posted on 12/04/2008 8:25:33 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro
LOL!

Well,...never seen that under the many raised floors I spent so much time in!

I liked the airconditioned work atmosphere....was nice and cool during the summer!

32 posted on 12/04/2008 8:30:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Win4Lin won’t run Windows applications unless you install a licensed copy of Windows 2000 or XP within the Linux environment. Perhaps the apps do operate more securely within the Linux sandbox, but you haven’t escaped the necessity of Windows itself. Not a big improvement, to my way of thinking.


33 posted on 12/04/2008 8:59:36 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Comrade, can you spare a crust of bread?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

At Newegg, for $80 you get three home and student licences.


34 posted on 12/04/2008 9:18:46 AM PST by js1138
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ping


35 posted on 12/04/2008 9:40:25 AM PST by HawaiianGecko (Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

36 posted on 12/04/2008 4:39:36 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The software package, available immediately, uses the Linux operating system and a set of IBM office applications that can be displayed on so-called thin clients, which don't have processing units or hard drives.

Unless they're rolling out the VT100-Millenium Edition, I'm pretty sure there's going to be a CPU in there.

37 posted on 12/04/2008 4:43:51 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: TomGuy

No, actually PC-DOS was a Microsoft product. They just called the copies they sold direct to the public MS-DOS. At least it was originally, and IBM continued to call it that after they split the sheets with MuSoft.


38 posted on 12/04/2008 4:48:32 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: All
Related article:

IBM takes on VMware virtual desktop

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IBM is taking on VMware's virtual desktop infrastructure with its own Linux and Lotus-based virtual desktop.

VMware's VDI, recently re-launched as View, ships a virtual Windows or Linux desktop to desktops, notebooks and thin client devices, and is built from a golden master file and linked clones, stored on a VMware ESX server's disks.

39 posted on 12/04/2008 5:12:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: TomGuy
I remember one of their earliest attempts to compete with the big M.

PC-DOS

Funny you should mention that. I was just talking with someone at work the other day about PC-DOS 7, which finally brought a real batch language to PCs when they included REXX. OMG, it was absolutely fantastic stuff, especially compared to the clunky and extraordinarily limited batch language that Windows still ships with. You could actually do real things with REXX that were impossible to do with DOS batch files without using extra tools to process keystrokes and stuff.

40 posted on 12/04/2008 6:23:20 PM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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