Posted on 12/01/2008 5:36:21 PM PST by JoeProBono
Phoenix, AZ (AHN) - An 8-year-old boy who confessed to shooting to death his father and a man renting a room from his father in Arizona earlier this month, had told authorities he kept a log recording the instances his father and stepmother hit him. According to a search affidavit from a St. Johns, Ariz. Police officer, the boy told Child Protective Services agents that 1,000 spankings was his threshold.
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Well, children do have to set limits for their parents. Wait, how does that go again?
It is likely that tens of thousands of children are abused as this boy purportedly has been. If what the boy says is true, than one has to admire him for not letting his parents break his spirit as many other children are maimed for life because their parents are not parent material.
Just imagine, an adult beating up a little boy or girl; too sad to think about. Adults who harm children are in the same league as terrorists, IMO.
That was my first suspicion.
It would explain a lot. But then so would a psychopathic personality. The two of course are not mutually exclusive.
This is sort of disturbing statement.
“I had a feeling he did it. If an eight year old boy is capable of doing this, it’s [him].”
If that’s the case, the story will be surpressed in the media.
>So why did he kill the guy renting?
>Hospital records?
>Something doesn’t come together on this as yet!
You’re right something doesn’t taste right here.
The grandparents might have been the ones to do it, it seems like there was a LOT of anger there, possibly over the choice of spouse.
Hospital records for the kid,you mean? Not all abused kids wind up in ERs or doctors' offices.And it does sound as if he might have been abused.
If any form a discipline doesn’t work, you have to try something else. Clearly, if they really were spanking him that often it wasn’t working. Discipline isn’t about a parent letting off steam, it’s about teaching a kid the limits. I had one son who just became more defiant when we spanked him. I had to use other things.
Who besides the grandparents are saying he was mistreated? I am not saying he wasn’t, but that’s pretty thin soup. Even the grandparent made a somewhat disturbing statement about the kid. When the kid said a 1,000 spanks, we have his word only so far. No journal is mentioned as having been seen, just the kid saying that.
Not sure about this one.
The audio I heard of part of the police interview with this boy was downright chilling. There was no emotion whatsoever in his voice at any point. He sounded like a robot. He didn’t even sound like a child telling a story about anything- much less murder.
I have no idea if the boy was born with emotional/psychiatric problems and the parents did not get help for him, or if he was abused to the point he became mentally shut down or psychopathic or had other trauma in his life but he sure sounded like he has serious issues.
The only time I have seen a child like him was when I once took care of a boy that had idiots for parents- his mom ran off with his uncle and his entire extended family was so caught up in the drama of one siblings wife taking off with another sibling’s hubby that the children of both were neglected. Noone in that family had even bothered to think how a train wreck like that had effected the kids involved. I told the grandma he needed counseling and to this day I expect him to have major issues at some point and he is grown now. No feelings, no emotion, just vacant.
There is a story about this boy in AZ that is yet to come out I think. When I first heard it I thought perhaps the men were sexually abusing him- still a thought in my mind. But it could be his parent’s divorce was a major trauma or he was severely abused in some way.
“I had one son who just became more defiant when we spanked him.”
Is that you Mom!!??
(I knew when I was in REAL trouble when my old man would have to talk to me. Just a quiet talk. And that was it.)
LOL
Actually, that son IS a Freeper, but not you.... ;)
“He was abused. They were cruel”
I absolutely agree! This was most definitely abuse. He’s 8 years old for God’s sake. This was not ‘discipline’. This appears to me to have been the product of an emotionally immature or troubled parent who was unable to control his anger repeatedly humiliating a little boy. How much emotional hurt must there have been to this child to bring him to the point at which he would kill his own father? What a horrible tragedy.
1,000 spankings is one a day for less than three years. Considering that there could have been some tough days where more than one was administered, that would mean that there had to be days when there was none.
My kids would go through spells when they were really defiant and it would be tough on all of us and then they’d go for weeks without a need for any discipline. I couldn’t tell you the average though. Never thought to keep a record.
But the thing that’s weirder is that an 8 year old decided on a limit, kept track, and then blew away his dad when he reached it. There’s something chillingly cold-blooded about that child. He sounds like a psychopath.
An 8 year old who can formulate a plan like this, and keep records of specific instances, and take action when the proper time comes, must be some sort of genius. Assuming the records were anywhere near accurate, and not just flights of fancy or the product of bad math (1,000 spankings sounds like a lot) then this is a pretty interesting story. Why are they saying he shot the roommate? That’s the element that could potentially dispel this as a “child abuse issue” and flag it as a premeditated, cold-blooded murder.
So why did he kill the guy renting?
Dad’s boyfriend??
I hope to God this child gets the help he so desparately needs.
God is pretty clear about what kind of help murderers need. Didn’t this boy ever think of telling his teacher? DHS is just salivating to get hold of this kind of case.
Possible, but as Cromagnum? pointed out, this was planned. If in fact he kept a journal and once 1,000 was reached decided to kill dear old dad... well that’s cold. If he could do those things then why not phone social service or go to the cops?
1,000 spankings is the other problem. That’s a LOT. No one except the grandparent seems to have noticed all this.
The more I think about it the less believable it becomes.
Gives a whole new meaning to “this is going to hurt me more than you.”
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