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Squabble over underwater treasure trove (Lost works by Rembrandt, van Goyen aboard)
Russia Today ^ | November 19, 2008

Posted on 11/19/2008 10:55:41 PM PST by nickcarraway

A priceless lost treasure is due to be lifted from the bottom of the sea. Having spent over two centuries underwater off the shores of Finland, the ship "Frau Maria" along with its priceless cargo is due to be lifted from its resting place on the bottom of the Baltic Sea. The Russian imperial riches are said to be the most important underwater discovery ever, presenting unprecedented historical and monetary value. Now the question stands of who will reap the benefits. Russia, Finland and The Netherlands all claim that the bounty should be theirs.

Its history is like an adventure novel. In 1771, the Russian Empress Catherine the Great ordered an extensive collection of art for her newly-founded Hermitage museum in St. Petersburg. The Empress was fastidious in her choices and paid for them generously, yet she never saw the result of her efforts. Leaving Amsterdam, the ship encountered a storm, ran aground and sank near what is now Finland. The crew was saved, unlike the masterpieces, which were left in the vessel's storage. Only in 1999 did Finnish divers come across the ship.

According to records, 27 paintings were onboard the ship, including previously unseen works by Rembrandt, van Goyen and other Dutch painters of the period. Experts say that the paintings were not severely harmed after spending all those years underwater. Before shipment, the canvases were put into lead containers with wax poured over the openings. In addition to the paintings, Frau Maria dragged away dozens of bronze sculptures, hundreds of porcelain objects as well as countless gold and silver coins. Art lovers around the world consider the collection to be priceless, while antiquarians give it the tag of 500 million to 1 billion euros.

The question now stands as to which country has the strongest claim for the treasures. The Finnish government asserts that the law is on its side. Indeed, according to a Finnish law, anything which spends more than 100 years on the bottom of its sea officially becomes its property. Nevertheless, matters are further complicated by the fact that the Russian Empire signed a deed buying all of the ship's contents. Furthermore, at the time that the deeds were signed, Finland, including the location where the sunken ship now lies, was part of the Russian Empire. The Netherlands, from their part, suggest that the riches should be reaped by them, since "Frau Maria" is a Dutch ship.

However, the countries shouldn't count their chickens before they hatch – the ship still needs to be hauled from the seabed first. Artyom Tarasov from the Russian charity organisation "The Rescue of national cultural and historic valuables" says that exploring the ship's bottom and the surrounding area will take up the whole of 2009. Then, a decision will have to be made on how to lift "Frau Maria" up from the seabed.

"We predict two possible scenarios. The first one is that the boat will be lifted up as a whole using special soft ropes made from artificial fibres so that the boardsides are not harmed. The second option is for divers to remove the valuables out from Frau Maria's hold," said Tarasov.

According to experts, unlike Jaques Yves Cousteau's nautical missions which involved the swift lifting of objects from the bottom of the sea, the operation with "Frau Maria" needs more scientific planning. Russian representatives have said that the project should not be individualised, but rather considered pan-European and humanitarian and intended to benefit not only all the parties involved, but also, above everything else, world culture.

Russian engineers have pointed out that the Frau Maria could have been lifted as far back as nine years ago. However, intense negotiations are needed for the project to be conducted adequately. The Finnish government has even said that the Frau Maria may not see the light of day until 2018.

Sunken treasures around the world

The Caribbean is considered to be a true haven of lost treasure. Having once been the piracy capital of the world, the area is rich in sunken ships. And, whilst undoubtedly looting, the pirates still left most of the valuables onboard the sinking vessels.

It is therefore unsurprising that the most important underwater discovery of the 20th century was made in these waters.

Nuestra Señora de Atocha

A Spanish galley recovered from the ocean near Key West, Florida. The ship sank during a hurricane on September 6, 1622, bringing down with it over 40 tonnes of silver and gold: over 100,000 Spanish silver coins known as "Pieces of Eight", gold coins, Columbian emeralds, silver and gold artifacts and over 1000 silver bars. The total value of the treasure is estimated at US$ 400 million, but it is suspected that a significant part of it still remains underwater.

Nuestra Senora de la Concepcion

This cargo galley was recovered by Bert Webber and Jim Huskins near the shores of Haiti. 32 tonnes of silver were lifted from the sea bed. They came in the shape of bars, coins, jewels and dishes.

Biggest treasure in history

In May 2007 an American company reported that it had discovered a treasure with an estimated value of over US$ 500 million. The riches lay onboard a medieval ship which found its final resting place on the bottom of the Atlantic ocean. 500,000 gold and silver coins were transported to the shore, causing concern for the British government. They were based mostly on the fact that the company refused to provide details of the treasure's exact location. Experts have since assumed that the origin of the riches was the vessel "Merchant Royal" which crashed during a storm in 1641.

...And in Russia

Most of Russia's underwater riches are concentrated around the Gulf of Finland - there are over 6000 vessels resting in its depths. Being a key shipping route between the capital of the Russian Empire, St Petersburg, and other territories, it was inevitable that it would become a burial ground for cargo ships and their freights.

One of the most significant finds in the Gulf of Finland was made in 1999 by a group of amateur divers. They came across a cargo ship which had been carrying an artwork collection for Catherine the Great. Its main constituents were paintings by what are considered to be Rembrandt's pupils as well as such important Dutch artists as Paulus Potter and Gerard Dou. Apart from artwork intended for the Hermitage museum, the cargo also contained items that the Russian aristocracy had ordered for private collections. Then, much like in the case with "Frau Maria", there were severe negotiations between the Finnish and Russian governments over who should gain rights for the treasures. Then, the rights were passed on to the country, which made the discovery - Russia.

International worry

Multiple attempts to sign a global document, defining the status and ownership of treasures recovered from the sea depths, which have culminated with a document ratified by UNESCO in 2001. The paper is an amendment to the normal UNESCO portfolio dealing with the protection of cultural heritage. It places under protection all culturally and historically valuable items which have been underwater wholly or partially for 100 years at least. Furthermore, it forbids any commercial gain to be derived from the treasures.

There is, however, still no coordinated international agreement outlining which country should become the owner of particular underwater finds. It is tacitly accepted that whichever country's waters are located within a 24 mile radius from the site claims ownership of the treasures. In some countries, the sunken vessel belongs to private people for the first 100 years since the disaster happened.


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; vrouwmaria

1 posted on 11/19/2008 10:55:41 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 11/19/2008 10:56:00 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: nickcarraway

3 posted on 11/19/2008 10:59:57 PM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
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I think it should be paid as reparations to the oppressed people of the third world. Bad Europeans, bad, bad.
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4 posted on 11/19/2008 11:01:37 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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Yeah, I think Russia should use the loot to pay Cold War/Stalin era reparations to all those 80 million plus that were murdered under Communism.


5 posted on 11/19/2008 11:31:27 PM PST by IreneE ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy." - my paraphrase of Thomas Aquinas)
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It belongs to the salvagers.


6 posted on 11/20/2008 1:41:12 AM PST by magslinger (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
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I think the Glomar Explorer is still mothballed somewhere.


7 posted on 11/20/2008 1:44:17 AM PST by Brucifer ("The dog ate my copy of the Constitution." G W Bush)
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BUMP!


8 posted on 11/20/2008 3:20:48 PM PST by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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9 posted on 11/20/2008 3:40:49 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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Imagine the art event when they unveil these. Pretty exciting.


10 posted on 11/20/2008 3:54:03 PM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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[Sunken treasure: The Hermitage masterpieces lost at sea 245 years ago, TASS, Oct 13, 2016]

As it turned out, the contents of the Frau Maria can be claimed by four states – the Netherlands as the country that owned the sailboat, Sweden as the country to whose territory the Archipelago Sea's islands belonged in the 18th century, Russia as the country for which the cargo was destined, and Finland, which owns the Archipelago Sea's islands today.

Finnish law specifies that if a ship and its cargo remain in the territorial waters of Finland for 100 years, the country becomes their sole legal owner. This term will expire in December 2017, when the Nordic country celebrates the centenary of its independence.

The Russian authorities originally tried to rescue the paintings back in the 18th century. Once the news about the disaster reached St. Petersburg, the government immediately appealed to Sweden with a request to take the situation under special control. Chancellor Nikita Panin wrote to his Swedish counterpart, Ulrik Scheffer, that "on board are several boxes of valuable paintings belonging to Her Imperial Majesty."

Attempts to save the ship, suspended in the winter because of the ice conditions, were renewed in spring 1772, but the technology of the time did not allow for the vessel to be recovered.

Following the discovery of the wreckage in 1999, the question arose again, and Russian specialists began to propose joint research to the Finns. Negotiations were held from 2008 onward, but in spring 2011 Finland officially announced that it was rejecting plans to raise the ship.

11 posted on 11/27/2017 11:48:59 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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This artist’s conception shows the Vruow Maria as she is today, remarkably well preserved on the bottom of the Baltic Sea

This artist’s conception shows the Vruow Maria as she is today, remarkably well preserved on the bottom of the Baltic Sea

12 posted on 11/27/2017 11:52:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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