Posted on 11/09/2008 4:57:34 AM PST by Perdogg
I am already getting angry after reading the first 14 pages. I had I started this book before election day I might have stayed home.
One question: The stockmarket fell on October 28th, 1929, from 299 to 261, then from 261 to 230 on October 29th, 1929. Why was this considered a crash?
"As soon as A observes something which seems to him to be wrong, from which X is suffering, A talks it over with B, and A and B then propose to get a law passed to remedy the evil and help X. Their law always proposes to determine what C shall do for X, or in the better case, what A, B, and C shall do for X.... [W]hat I want to do is to look up C.... He is the man who never is thought of."
"The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man."
William Graham Sumner - 1883
I read carefully the pronouncements of Prime Minister Maliki, who clearly is delighted that Obama won the election. You can go on google news to read up on that. Please don’t be in denial on that.
The Kurds are our allies and friends. Not the Sunnis or Shia.
***Let’s not forget that during the war years he [FDR] de facto suspended the 1st amendment.***
I’m not so sure that FDR “de facto suspended the first amendment” during WWII. Hitler attacked our ally, England, in 1939, and made no bones about his, “Today Europe, tomorrow the world” philosophy. We couldn’t let him do that to us.
In addition, all of that was before the sixties and the useful idiots and Viet Nam. And it was before our schools were infiltrated by communist teachers. So there was a great sense of patriotism in this country.
FDR didn’t need to diminish the first amendment. Media, including even movies, were on the side of patriotism.
One question: The stockmarket fell on October 28th, 1929, from 299 to 261, then from 261 to 230 on October 29th, 1929. Why was this considered a crash?The volume of shares dumped were enormous by the standards of the time (pre-computer; 13 million and 15 million respectively, if memory serves) and the two day slide was just over 23 per cent. There were few or no bidders, and the capital needs of the sellers kept the prices from falling further. Some companies' stocks didn't slide much, others were much worse.
While that may be true the fact remains that the media was severely restricted about what they could and could not report. The US had an "Office of Censorship" in WWII. If Bush had such an office he would also be a hero 60 years from now.
***FDR didn’t need to diminish the first amendment. Media, including even movies, were on the side of patriotism.***
<<<While that may be true the fact remains that the media was severely restricted about what they could and could not report. The US had an “Office of Censorship” in WWII. If Bush had such an office he would also be a hero 60 years from now. <<<
SV, with all due respect, it IS true. I was there. And I had two uncles who were reporters, one of whom was assigned to highly classified information from the government. The idea was not to give the ENEMY information on troop movement, etc.
If Pres. Bush had tried an “Office of Censorship” he’d have been crucified by the leftist media. Look what they have done about telephone calls from suspected terrorists to offshore tel. numbers.
Remember that Pres. Bush has had to fight terrorists who attacked this country, as well as the liberals here at home.
My stack of reading is already becoming dangerously tall so I won’t be adding this, but the author is an actual historian and might shed some light on that period. History buffs would appreciate it.
Poll after poll showed a majority of the American people were not happy with the way the Iraqi war was going until recently. But a majority also felt that we should stay and win in Iraq.
So you are wrong if you think the Iraqi war was a deciding factor among voting Americans, it was not. It was only important to the anti-war left.
As for the stock market, no it was not the crash that caused McCain’s bid to fail, although it did not help. Data now show that nearly 20% of Republicans who voted last election stayed home in the recent election. They stayed home because they were not connecting with McCain.
And many more would have stayed home if not for Palin.
As for your poor understanding of the WOT, I suggest you read Haim Harari who has an infinitely better understanding than you on the subject.
As one version of Twain’s oft cited quote “It’s better to stay silent and look a fool, rather than speak and remove all doubt”.
Remember that Pres. Bush has had to fight terrorists who attacked this country, as well as the liberals here at home.
How could we forget such scenes as Harry “The War is Lost” Reid? You will know a man’s character by his enemies. With enemies like Nancy & Harry, President Bush was a man of character.
Consider the ‘compromises’ made with them in order to procede with the business of the country, it’s a wonder we’re not worse off that we are. (Especially the past two years with the “New Direction” from Congress)
Now with little or no ‘speed bumps’, you will see what happens without GW. It’s not going to be pretty!
As for ‘Capital Strike’, it’s already going on.
Join the resistance!
Both “The Forgotten Man” and “The Five Thousand Year Leap” are on my reading list for the new year. Taking a little break from the non fiction with the Brad Thor books right now though.
I would also recommend “Liberal Fascism” by Jonah Goldberg. I learned a ton of interesting and somewhat alarming stuff in that book when I read it last summer.
***If you read the book, Amity says that FDR was re-elected in 1940 and 1944 because of the war and because of the GOP’s idiotic stand on it. FDR was elected 1936 because he discovered if you put people on the dole, they will vote for you over and over.***
Absolutely! FDR was re-elected in 1940 and 1944. I was there, a child, but aware of the elections. “Don’t change horses in the middle of the stream,” was the Dem. slogan.
FDR (so I’ve read) challenged Hoover in 1936 by swearing he would change the stance on how he handled the depression problem. However, when he was elected he continued Hoover’s mistakes and enlarged on them.
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