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Obama's chief of staff choice favors compulsory universal service
Charlotte Examiner ^ | 11-6-2008 | J.D. Tuccille

Posted on 11/06/2008 4:55:33 PM PST by dman4384

Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, President-Elect Barack Obama's choice for chief of staff in his incoming administration, is co-author of a book, The Plan: Big Ideas for America, that calls for, among other things, compulsory service for all Americans ages 18 to 25

Emanuel and co-author Bruce Reed insist "this is not a draft," but go on to write of young men and women, "the nation will enlist them for three months of civilian service." They also warn, "[s]ome Republicans will squeal about individual freedom," ruling out any likelihood that they would let people opt out of universal citizen service.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: draft; emanuel; lp; obama; rahmemanuel; ratplantation; slavery; socialism
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The Pat person has been saying strange things since s/he joined.


61 posted on 11/06/2008 5:35:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: dman4384

The sh1ts going to hit the fan fast with o’man. Another great plan he has is more government regulation on industry, finanacial services, and health care, plus support for labor unions. But that’s not all! More taxation on the oil industry!That’s going to get the economy going.He’s out of his mind!


62 posted on 11/06/2008 5:35:47 PM PST by mefistofelerevised
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To: dman4384

Should we call Pointe Man a Nazi now, or later?


63 posted on 11/06/2008 5:36:27 PM PST by madison10 (Pray for Sarah Palin, her family, and Alaska.)
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To: wtc911

Can’t wait...send one to my house June-September to mow my lawn while I am on the beach.


64 posted on 11/06/2008 5:37:16 PM PST by JrsyJack
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To: prolifefirst

I could not agree more. They voted in the loser. The only bad thing is if it did get put into place, when would it be? (e.g. how long would it take?)


65 posted on 11/06/2008 5:37:27 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: itsPatAmerican

And Marxist Switzerland.


66 posted on 11/06/2008 5:37:52 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: dman4384
Um ... Hasn't the Constitutional Law "professor" who specialized in the 14th Amendment to the exclusion of all else even heard about the 13th?

Amendment 13 - Slavery Abolished. Ratified 12/6/1865.

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Slavery is back, and ... it's Bush's fault. If Bush had simply prevented the media from demonizing him, then McCain might have won, and slavery wouldn't be back.

By the way, I will not comply. My kids will not comply. And I will be laughing as The One's young followers watch in confusion as their chickens come home to roost.

67 posted on 11/06/2008 5:37:56 PM PST by MathDoc (Support The Affirmative Action President as enthusiastically as the media supported Bush!)
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To: Paved Paradise

This could work in our favor. Remember all those jobs that Americans refuse to do being used as an excuse to grant amnesty to 20 million illegals.

Problem solved, Obama will coerce the youth of America to do the work so we can send all the illegals back home and seal the border.


68 posted on 11/06/2008 5:40:28 PM PST by JrsyJack
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To: dman4384

Cool! Don’t ask, don’t smell.
Any guesses as to what’ next?


69 posted on 11/06/2008 5:43:39 PM PST by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: itsPatAmerican

I believe Israel has compulsory military service. And the people there probably don’t complain too much because they “know” their very survival as a people and a nation depends on it.


70 posted on 11/06/2008 5:45:45 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

They do and it’s interesting that Emanuel is a staunch supporter of Israel. His father was apparently some kind of uber zionist in the 40’s, a Moshe Dyan (know I mangled that)type. Most likely the model for this plan with the exception being that Israel is protecting itself from external forces, Obama may be shielding himself from critics.


71 posted on 11/06/2008 5:50:08 PM PST by JrsyJack
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To: JackOfVA
The military draft is based upon the Constitutional authority to raise an army and navy.

Exactly what provision of the Constitution mandates service outside the military escapes me. It must be in one of those penumbras or emanations

The Constitution only confirmed continuation of the traditional English Military system.

In Anglo-Saxon times the military was the Fyrd - the obligation of free landholders to turn out when called for.

The Norman invasion imposed the elite knightly class, who held their lands solely by their military obligation (knight-fee) and created a new landless peasantry without military obligations - however fyrdd service was still retained for the land owing yeomanry.

The peasantry was composed of freemen who paid rent for their land, but had no obligation to work for the land owner, and the villeins who had to provide Obama service as well as rent.

In The Assize of Arms of 1181

THE ASSIZE OF ARMS (1181) 1. Whoever possesses one knight's fee shall have a shirt of mail, a helmet, a shield, and a lance; and every knight shall have as many shirts of mail, helmets, shields, and lances as he possesses knight's fees in demesne.[1]

2. Moreover, every free layman who possesses chattels or rents to the value of 16m. shall have a shirt of mail, a helmet, a shield, and a lance; and every free layman possessing chattels or rents to the value of 10m. shall have a hauberk, an iron cap, and a lance.[2]

3. Item, all burgesses and the whole community of freemen shall have [each] a gambeson,[3] an iron cap, and a lance.

4. Besides, each of them shall swear to have these arms before the feast of St. Hilary, to be faithful to the lord king Henry — namely, the son of the Empress Matilda — and to bear these arms in his service according to his command and in fealty to the lord king and his kingdom. And henceforth no one having these arms shall sell them or pledge them or lend them or alienate them in any other way; nor shall a lord in any way alienate them from his men, either through forfeiture or through gift or through pledge or in any other way.

extended the military obligation to all freemen (item 3) but did not include Obama service. (I suspect an armed peasantry would have objected)
72 posted on 11/06/2008 5:50:21 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("...to disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them..." - George Mason)
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To: JrsyJack

Heck - why don’t they just lower the age for that civilian force to 16 and let all those eager-to-drive teens drive the illegals back home. Can you spell ROAD TRIP?


73 posted on 11/06/2008 5:52:40 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: wtc911

“Who will watch Shaniequa while baby-momma is picking up the litter on I-80?”

They won’t be picking up litter. They’ll be supervising YOU picking up litter. :)


74 posted on 11/06/2008 5:54:19 PM PST by dljordan
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To: dman4384
Fantastic! Two years of standing guard outside an abortion mill protecting “patients” from “vile,Nazi murderous thugs”.
75 posted on 11/06/2008 5:55:10 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama:"Ich bin ein beginner")
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To: dman4384

Let them start with the Youts that voted for Obama.

But where in the heck do they get this kind of authority?


76 posted on 11/06/2008 5:56:17 PM PST by o2bfree
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To: dman4384

‘When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already. . . . What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.’

Adolf Hitler


77 posted on 11/06/2008 6:02:46 PM PST by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: wtc911

There will be volunteer baby sitters so Shaniequa can go out and do her volunteer service. What’s wrong with you? : )


78 posted on 11/06/2008 6:03:19 PM PST by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: dman4384
"[s]ome Republicans will squeal about individual freedom,"

Guilty as charged.

You and the horse you rode in on, you weaselly little Fascist.

79 posted on 11/06/2008 6:06:31 PM PST by denydenydeny ("[Obama acts] as if the very idea of permanent truth is passe, a form of bad taste"-Shelby Steele)
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To: dman4384

As a friend of mine once said, “Scratch just beneath the surface of a socialist and you’ll find a fascist.”

Even I’m a little surprised by how quickly his words have been proven.


80 posted on 11/06/2008 6:11:33 PM PST by Valkyrie927 ("This is the way the world ends; not with a bang but a whimper." -TS Elliot)
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