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1 posted on 10/30/2008 7:33:28 AM PDT by yankeedame
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Anybody knows this, dog owner or not. Once they’re past their required body functions, dogs and most animals run on almost pure emotion.

Cats? Different story. They have to screw with you. It’s in their DNA.


2 posted on 10/30/2008 7:38:11 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Tired from wondering whether we wake up in the newest socialist country tomorrow.)
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The phenomenon may well be real. But it irks me how they just HAVE to tie this to evolution.

What we see: Dogs have an ability to read human moods.

Evidence that this is genetic and has evolved over thousands of generations: Zippo.

But the paradigm is that EVERYTHING is genetic and EVERYTHING has evolved over thousands of generations, and therefore EVERYTHING is evidence of evolution.

4 posted on 10/30/2008 7:42:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Dogs evolved to be our best friend. They smile and do things to MAKE US LOVE THEM!!! and it works!


6 posted on 10/30/2008 7:45:35 AM PDT by Wonderama Mama (Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money - Margaret Thatcher)
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...Moods such as anger, pleasure and fright are expressed far more clearly on the right side of our faces than on the left....

Credibility lost right there...

8 posted on 10/30/2008 7:47:26 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Brother, can you spare a dime?)
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My wife puts our dog on the phone for me to praise or yell at when I'm away on business trips.

It's the only thing I do in motel rooms that I'm ashamed of anymore.
11 posted on 10/30/2008 7:56:18 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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My dogs will jump around if I am in a good mood. But if I go outside and I’m down about something, they’ll quietly come and sit next to me.

That’s why they are called “man’s best friend”.


12 posted on 10/30/2008 7:57:10 AM PDT by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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As a dog trainer, I believe this to be true: they certainly can read our faces. And if we try hard enough, we can read theirs, too.

I also believe that some of the more intelligent breeds — like German Shepherds — can be trained to understand English. Some of them even try to speak it, but their vocal chords can’t quite do it.

(”Greta”, my current prodigy, can even make a sound like “Mom” — she only says it when my wife is around, and even then only to her: never to me. It is too consistent to be a random noise: she is deliberately doing this, trying to talk. “Mom” is what I call my wife in front of the dogs. I talk to Greta in plain English all the time. Her commands are in German, but I seldom use those.)

I am also convinced that dogs can communicate on another level that we cannot detect easily, perhaps ESP. They almost certainly can read our minds.

Dogs are much, much more intelligent than most folk give them credit for. But like I always tell folks, if all you do is give your dogs terse commands, don’t be too surprised if that is all they respond to.

Cats are completely untrainable.

Now for the sad news (somewhat off-topic): I had to euthanize my old dog Rupert today. He’s buried in the Jungle, where he liked to romp around. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, by a long stretch. But a lovely dog, great with kids, a wonderful companion that we rescued from an abusive owner ten years ago.

Eleven hours have passed and I am still pretty cut up about it. Greta is also in mourning, as are my wife and kids.


15 posted on 10/30/2008 8:04:56 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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Oh? The why can’t my boy read my face when he’s caught chewing on the vacuum! LOL.


16 posted on 10/30/2008 8:06:16 AM PDT by rintense (All da mavericks in da house put yo hands up!)
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Horses, too.

A hundred years ago, there was the case of Clever Hans, the horse who demonstrated he could solve word problems by tapping out the answer with his hoof. He caused a sufficiently large sensation around Germany to attract the interest of science:

Using a substantial number of trials, Pfungst[investigator] found that the horse could get the correct answer even if von Osten[Hans's owner] himself did not ask the questions, ruling out the possibility of fraud. However, the horse got the right answer only when the questioner knew what the answer was, and the horse could see the questioner.

He observed that when von Osten knew the answers to the questions, Hans got 89 percent of the answers correct, but when von Osten did not know the answers to the questions, Hans only answered six percent of the questions correctly.

Pfungst then proceeded to examine the behaviour of the questioner in detail, and showed that as the horse's taps approached the right answer, the questioner's posture and facial expression changed in ways that were consistent with an increase in tension, which was released when the horse made the final, "correct" tap. This provided a cue that the horse could use to tell it to stop tapping.


19 posted on 10/30/2008 8:13:46 AM PDT by cynwoody
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37 posted on 10/30/2008 9:51:05 AM PDT by NetSurfer (BO stinks.)
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To: MizSterious; Kokojmudd; brytlea; Darnright; Sensei Ern; sangrila; rattrap; dervish; sandalwood; ...

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38 posted on 10/30/2008 9:53:11 AM PDT by kanawa (http://www.canadalovessarah.ca/)
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Learning is not evolution, IMO.


43 posted on 10/30/2008 10:10:07 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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Suzie is real good understanding the kids moods. If they are in a bad mood she makes them forget it.

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44 posted on 10/30/2008 10:20:44 AM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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The results are in for the "My Dog Looks Like Obama or McCain" Photo Contest!
47 posted on 10/30/2008 10:43:09 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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Dogs are much smarter than humans give them credit for. Even those who don't look too smart.




54 posted on 10/30/2008 12:03:22 PM PDT by Lady Jag (DONATE NOW at https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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I know this is true, and in fact have tried to tell people thru the years that when their dog looks *guilty* it is generally that they can tell you are angry and they are trying their best to look submissive. We are not quite as good at reading THEIR body language as they are at reading OURS.


64 posted on 10/30/2008 2:28:27 PM PDT by brytlea (Change is like weather--it's not all good.)
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