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Blu-ray is dead - heckuva job, Sony!
ZDNet ^ | October 28th, 2008 | Robin Harris

Posted on 10/29/2008 11:02:59 AM PDT by savedbygrace

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Open for discussion. Is Blu-Ray dead already?
1 posted on 10/29/2008 11:03:00 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Admin Moderator

It is acceptable to post the entire article from ZDNet without excerpting?

If not, please correct for me.

Thanks.


2 posted on 10/29/2008 11:06:12 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Ping!


3 posted on 10/29/2008 11:06:36 AM PDT by frogjerk (Palin's record is on the record, while whole years of Obama's life are engulfed in fog - T. Sowell)
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To: savedbygrace

Another question.

Why is ZDNet and Robin Harris so in the tank for Sony Blu-Ray?


4 posted on 10/29/2008 11:06:53 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: savedbygrace
After all these years, I don't believe reports like this until the actual death happens. Over the past few years, I've seen plenty of reports on the imminent death of Circuit City and DSL internet service, to name just two.
5 posted on 10/29/2008 11:07:57 AM PDT by PCBMan (Drill! Drill! Drill!)
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To: savedbygrace

Not yet, but its close. As long as BD discs sell for 30 dollars while sitting next to it is the same movie for 15 dollars on DVD, BD will have a very tough sell.


6 posted on 10/29/2008 11:08:45 AM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: savedbygrace

How prevalent are blue ray discs selling now that HD DVD bowed out of the way? How many computers are shipping with BR players? From my understanding, they aren’t selling well at all. Apple won’t put blue ray in their computers and Steve Jobs publicly ridiculed Sony/BR for it’s excessive fees stating:

“Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt. It’s great to watch the movies, but the licensing of the tech is so complex, we’re waiting till things settle down and Blu-ray takes off in the marketplace.”

“Phil Schiller chimed in with ‘We have the best HD movie and TV options in iTunes.’”

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/14/steve-jobs-calls-blu-ray-a-bag-of-hurt/


7 posted on 10/29/2008 11:09:11 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (How does one win over terrorists? KILL them with UNKINDNESS)
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To: savedbygrace

I recently bought a divx compatible upconvert toshiba dvd player for $65. It’s awesome. Why would I pay premium prices for a slight upgrade in resolution on disks I already own and rarely play anyway?


8 posted on 10/29/2008 11:09:15 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: savedbygrace

Bill Gates said that B-Ray would be the last physical media standard. Perhaps he was more right than he realized.


9 posted on 10/29/2008 11:12:57 AM PDT by Paradox (Obama, the Audacity of Hype.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

May be of interest.


10 posted on 10/29/2008 11:15:28 AM PDT by KoRn (Barack Obama Must Be Stopped!!!)
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To: sbMKE
I recently bought a divx compatible upconvert toshiba dvd player for $65. It’s awesome. Why would I pay premium prices for a slight upgrade in resolution on disks I already own and rarely play anyway?

Ah DIVX...another money making scam made up by lawyers...

11 posted on 10/29/2008 11:15:37 AM PDT by frogjerk (Palin's record is on the record, while whole years of Obama's life are engulfed in fog - T. Sowell)
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To: savedbygrace
Open for discussion. Is Blu-Ray dead already?

I have a Blu-Ray player. It plays excellent HD video. However, the difference in video quality is not worth the double pricing of the Blu-Ray content discs that are available. DVDs that sell for $12 are $30 for Blu-Ray for the same entertainment content. Also Blu-Ray movies are not necessarily released at the same time as their DVD versions.

The other reason that Blu-Ray is going to die is that the cost of solid state Flash memory technology is nosediving. 32GB Flash drives are available for under $60 and as the volume increases and technology develops, they will soon be available for under $10. Content could be provided on Flash drives for the same cost as burning a Blu-Ray disk... and soon even less.

12 posted on 10/29/2008 11:15:42 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: savedbygrace

not necessarily dead... hinges on the market penetration of large sets though (50” & up). I have one of the best upscaling players available at any cost, and there is still a significant difference on larger displays vs bd. with 50” 1080p panels breaking the $1k barrier this Christmas, it may still have life yet. I am not a fan of HD downloads yet... the picture quality is still very marginal (worse than a good upscale), which makes sense, as the hd on-demand bit-rates are usually less than that of a good dvd. there is only so much you can do with data by interpolation :)


13 posted on 10/29/2008 11:15:48 AM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: savedbygrace
I bought an HD-DVD player about this time last year along with my Sharp 52" HDTV.

I told Santa I wanted a new Sony Playstation so I could play Blue-Ray movies as well as play the games.

Will HD-DVD make a comeback or is it history?

14 posted on 10/29/2008 11:16:07 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: savedbygrace

>Open for discussion. Is Blu-Ray dead already?

If it is, then it’s good news.
I didn’t like Blu-ray from the beginning; and I didn’t like HD-DVD either, simply because of their ridiculously draconian DRM schemes, but these licensing terms are REALLY stupid.


15 posted on 10/29/2008 11:16:21 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: savedbygrace

No. This guy is nuts.

It will take over DVD sales in a few years. It will be the primary medium on which movies are distributed on.


16 posted on 10/29/2008 11:19:06 AM PDT by CSI007
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To: Swordmaker

good point, but until they get it into a consumer device, it will not be mass consumed. I love htpcs, but there is significant cost even without the hd source, and far more complicated than most people have the stomach for.


17 posted on 10/29/2008 11:19:17 AM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: savedbygrace

I have a PlayStation 3 (integrated Blu Ray player and Game Console) and a high quality Sony upscaling DVD player too. (Both HDMI connected)

On a 40” or better HDTV there is NO comparison. Blu Ray wins hands down on video quality, audio quality and copious additional content. It’s the author that is smoking crack.

Price is an issue, but Blu Ray disk discounts are frequent and becoming more so.


18 posted on 10/29/2008 11:20:44 AM PDT by EasySt ( Fold Here! Fold Now! (Free Republic Folders)
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To: sbMKE
That, of course, is the answer ~ why?

The slightly "older crowd" here remembers when the IBM PC hit the market.

A lesson: Greedballs in Marketing can screw up the PC!

What happened was IBM built a nice machine that competed quite well over competing CPM and 8-bit systems then on the market. Then the Marketing guys, seeking to protect IBM's dumb terminals (and seeing into the future no doubt) demanded and got a video chip that limited main processor throughput to the speed it took to refresh the CRT.

Oh, yeah, made the PC real popular ~ actually, that standard turned the PC into a "government only" machine because GSA demanded, and got, an "off switch" so that you could literally freeze the screen and process in the background as fast as the main and supporting chips could operate.

By the time the AT came out the problem with Marketing was fixed ~ no doubt many of the same folks there at IBM 25 years ago are working with Blu-ray stuff today.

Alas, there were competitors, and IBM found itself almost excluded from the PC market it'd created.

Trying to remember the last time I bought anything by IBM ~ trying, trying, trying, ~ ding, ding, ding ~ does not compute!

19 posted on 10/29/2008 11:22:50 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CSI007
It will take over DVD sales in a few years. It will be the primary medium on which movies are distributed on.

In a few years there will be no primary medium on which movies are distributed - it will overwhelmingly be download.

20 posted on 10/29/2008 11:25:16 AM PDT by Strategerist
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