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I found reference to this article on the hillaryclinton.com website. NLP (neuro-linguistics programmming) is a legitmate technique I heard about some years ago. The thesis of the article is terrifying considering who Obama associates with. And I'm not the only one - check http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=36890
1 posted on 10/20/2008 10:09:19 AM PDT by spaced
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I would imagine it is easy to hypnotize morons...


2 posted on 10/20/2008 10:11:04 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Democrats: Seeking an easy life at someone else's expense for 150 years")
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None of it is new to politics.


3 posted on 10/20/2008 10:12:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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Freepers have noticed this since the primaries. It also helps that George Lakoff is one of Obama’s speechwriters and consultants. Someone needs to rewrite this as more an academic sounding versus conspiratorial sounding paper- it will hit undecided voters better.


4 posted on 10/20/2008 10:12:31 AM PDT by mnehring (We Are Joe!)
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I’ve always suspected I couldn’t be hypnotized. This clinches it. It must be why his speeches are so damn irritating to me to have to sit through and listen. He never says anything, just drones on and on...


5 posted on 10/20/2008 10:12:43 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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Dr. Milton Erickson, M.D. was a remarkable guy. I would be hesitant to rush forward and say that Obama is really using these techniques, but it’s an intriguing possibility.


6 posted on 10/20/2008 10:12:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Well that explains Chrisy shiver up his leg.


7 posted on 10/20/2008 10:13:09 AM PDT by Orange1998
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8 posted on 10/20/2008 10:15:47 AM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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The 'technique' was and is being used in America by this method also:

The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened----

Norman Thomas, six-time Socialist Party presidential candidate and one of the founders of the ACLU

9 posted on 10/20/2008 10:18:03 AM PDT by yoe
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Now listen very closely, “Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh....”


10 posted on 10/20/2008 10:18:05 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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From AsiaTimesOnline, Feb 26, 2008

Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...

Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.

There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."

Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

13 posted on 10/20/2008 10:23:46 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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From Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."[2]

[2] Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm

14 posted on 10/20/2008 10:25:33 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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NLP is one of the techniques that Ross Jeffries teaches guys to use in order to get them, uh, how to have success with the ladies, er, women.
15 posted on 10/20/2008 10:27:10 AM PDT by Paradox (Obama, the Audacity of Hype.)
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This explains why every time I’m listening to one of Obama’s speeches, I feel this overwhelming desire to travel to a long-defunct New Jersey drive-in movie theater to buy some popcorn.


18 posted on 10/20/2008 10:31:24 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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Thought this was interesting that a nlp trainer noticed this about Obama back in Jan., 2008

http://www.alwayswow.com/archive/2008/01/obamas_use_of_l.html

January 07, 2008

Obama’s use of linguistic language patterns in his victory speech
Barack Obama’s victory speech after the Iowa Caucus election contains quite a bit of powerful linguistic language patterns.

While I am not going to elaborate it all in detail, let me give you some great examples of how strong his rethoric actually is:

“You know, they said this day would never come. They said our sights were set too high. They said this country was too divided, too disillusioned to ever come together around a common purpose.”

The ‘you know’ does not address anybody specifically, but it causes us to go inside and feel addressed. Inside of us, we have to simply agree. Then, the “They” part, unspecified, builds a frame - us versus them, but since he speaks to supporters, well, he captures their emotions, their committments and connection to him.

In his speech, he builds a lot of pictures, such as when he says that “you have done what the state of New Hampshire can do in five days. You have done what America can do in this new year, 2008. In lines that stretched around schools and churches, in small towns and in big cities, you came together as Democrats, Republicans and independents, to stand up and say that we are one nation. We are one people. And our time for change has come.”

We all can see these lines and queues in our head now, can we not? Also, he starts with future pacing, putting people into the future, making them realise that in 2008, there will be change.

He then also keeps contrast framing against his opponents, without mentioning them by name. “We are choosing hope over fear. We’re choosing unity over division.” And further: “ The time has come for a president who will be honest about the choices and the challenges we face, who will listen to you and learn from you, even when we disagree, who won’t just tell you what you want to hear, but what you need to know.”

There is much more in his speech and I like it a lot. The way he contrasts his opponents, integrates his supporters, and creates the future.

Toward the end of the speech, he says: “Years from now, you’ll look back and you’ll say that this was the moment, this was the place where America remembered what it means to hope.”

Future pacing again together with a nearly classical sales script. He is like the salesman, who states that “yes, Mr. Jones felt the same as you did, about the high price, but in 6 months time, when you look back at this moment, you will realise ....”

May be the US is a country tranced out by a new candidate for a President. Obama’s linguistic skills are great, way better than his current counterpart.

I am curious how he will continue his journey to the White House.

Andreas Dorn - Asia Mind Dynamics


19 posted on 10/20/2008 10:48:04 AM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid (McCain/Palin 08 - Evil triumps when good people do nothing!! - www.protestthemedia.com Oct 21st)
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It really is possible to hypnotise large groups of people just by talking a certain way. I saw a guy do this in college. I knew these people, and believe me, they couldn't have faked it. It was the funniest thing I've ever watched!

I imagine the techniques could be used for evil easy enough...

20 posted on 10/20/2008 10:52:54 AM PDT by Americanchild
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Obama’s gig is to suspend rational thought.

Once done, all his BS is accepted without any kind of resistance and leaves the crowds yelling “More! More!”


21 posted on 10/20/2008 10:57:17 AM PDT by vietvet67
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"In 1951, [Reverend Jim] Jones (Jonestown) began attending communist meetings and rallies in Indianapolis.[4] Jones became flustered at harassment he received during the McCarthy Hearings,[4] particularly, regarding meetings between Jones and his mother with Paul Robeson.[5] This, among other things, provoked a seminal moment for Jones where he asked himself "how can I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."[5][4]"

"In the summer of 1977, Jones and most of the 900 members of the People's Temple moved to Guyana from San Francisco after media pressure built.[25] Jones left the same night that an editor at New West magazine read Jones an article by Marshall Kilduff to be published detailing allegations by former Temple members.[25][16] Jones named the settlement Jonestown after himself.

Jones purported to establish Jonestown as a benevolent model communist community stating, 'I believe we’re the purest communists there are.' [26] Jones' wife, Marceline, described Jonestown as "dedicated to live for socialism, total economic and racial and social equality. We are here living communally."[26] Jones wanted to construct a model community to show others and stated that Prime Minister of Guyana Forbes Burnham 'couldn’t rave enough about us, uh, the wonderful things we do, the project, the model of socialism.'[27] In that regard, like the restrictive emigration policies of the then Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and other communist republics, Jones did not permit members to leave Jonestown.[28]

Jones and several members argued that the group should commit "revolutionary suicide" by drinking cyanide-laced grape flavored Flavor Aid (often misidentified as Kool-Aid) along with a sedative.[39]

One member, Christine Miller, dissents toward the beginning of the tape.[39] When members apparently cried, Jones counseled "Stop this hysterics. This is not the way for people who are Socialists or Communists to die. No way for us to die. We must die with some dignity."[39] Jones can be heard saying, "Don't be afraid to die" and, regarding death as "just stepping over into another plane" and that "[death is] a friend."[39] At the end of the tape, Jones concludes: "We didn't commit suicide, we committed an act of revolutionary suicide protesting the conditions of an inhumane world."[39] Children were given the drink first and families were told to lie down together. The mass suicide had been discussed in simulated events called "White Nights" on a regular basis, while members drank liquid Jones first told them was poison during at least one of those White Nights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

22 posted on 10/20/2008 10:57:23 AM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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The History channel had a program on Saturday night 11p-midnight EDT on detecting deception. They actually had clips of Obama and McCain. They said that Obama’s speech was a type of hypnotic speech. In fact, it was mentioned that after the speech you probably wouldn't remember WHAT was said but you would feel energized and excited by it. Amazing.
23 posted on 10/20/2008 11:06:00 AM PDT by midcop402
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When I first heard of this tie-in to 0bam's oration, I was skeptical. But after reading this article, my skepticism has lessened.

At minimum, I would attribute this technique to twenty years of listening to Rev. Wright, as this technique is fairly common in the style of black Preachers.

At worse, this could be evidence that 0bama has been carefully groomed...by parties...suspected, but not proved.

24 posted on 10/20/2008 11:14:01 AM PDT by happygrl (we are all plumbers now!)
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nothing new or magic here ...

just google up NLP, Richard Bandler, John Grinder, ...

Tony Robbins was trained in NLP and hire by the Clinton White House to train his staff ...

this is old technology that is available to the republicans if they so desire ...

it is unfortunate that the word "hyposis" is associated with the techniques because it is really quite different and many in the public have a nasty reaction to the word.

Erickson, as well as Bandler and Grinder who studied him, are communication geniuses ...

25 posted on 10/20/2008 11:16:30 AM PDT by bankwalker (In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.)
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