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TIME TO CALL A COMMUNIST A COMMUNIST
Townhall.com ^ | Oct. 16, 2008 | Laura Hollis

Posted on 10/16/2008 6:33:45 PM PDT by patriot08

I am tired of all the dancing around the subject with respect to Barack Obama’s political, social, and economic views. He’s not a “liberal,” or a “Democrat,” or a “progressive,” or even a “socialist.” Let’s call it what it is, shall we? It’s time to use the “C” word. His policies are communist, pure and simple.

Even without the power of the Presidency, a filibuster-proof Senate, and U.S. Supreme Court appointments under his belt, Obama has already:

* called for a national citizen military force;

* sent government agents to intimidate American citizens who have said they don’t agree with him and will not vote for him;

* tried to use the offices of state Attorneys General to silence any opposition or dissent;

* offered questionable “support” for the Second Amendment “right to bear arms” – as long as it isn’t in self-defense;

* proposed his version of “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need;” (plumbers – plumbers, for pity’s sake, should pay more taxes???)

* trained, funded and utilized organizations like ACORN that are notorious for voter registration fraud;

* consorted with and funded terrorists and anti-American radicals;

* attended a church led by a racist, black supremacist, anti-American bigot;

* been mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, who was apparently not only a Communist and a bigot, but also a pervert, and who warned Obama not to go off to college or fall for “equal opportunity and the American way and all that s***.”

Despite concerted efforts by the media to hide this information, Obama’s connections with the Communist Party have been unearthed by independent investigators, journalists and bloggers. And like clockwork, Obama apologists and handlers are trying to assuage the public’s concerns with assurances that Obama is “not that radical;” he knows that “socialism is dead;” he is a pragmatist, not an ideologue.

Uh-huh. Sure. Well, they got the “pragmatist” part right, anyway. Obama’s immersion in the philosophy of Saul Alinsky has made him a master of political pragmatism. Conservatives make another fundamental error when they wonder why Obama is heralding policies like higher taxes that have been proven, time and time again, to fail. Newsflash: You don’t get it. It’s not that Obama is ignorant, or misguided. He knows – as do his Red backers – that the policies he espouses will cause further economic trauma. This is deliberate. Because the worse things get, the more receptive the public will be to Obama’s & Co.’s honey-tongued assurances that the government will step in and “make it all better.” Look at Hurricane Katrina, and the recent financial crisis: how many people were clamoring for the government to “do something”? And that’s nothing compared to what we’re going to face when Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid collapse.

Obama’s colleagues are shrewd; they know that they have little chance of taking over all of private enterprise by force. Instead, they want the public to hand it over to them, bit by bit.

Even the briefest study of Communist Party ideology dating back to the 1930s reveals a concerted campaign to infiltrate and destroy the United States from within, by gaining control of the universities, of the media, of primary and secondary school, of the courts, and ultimately the entire government. Joseph McCarthy’s monumentally bad rap notwithstanding, dozens of former spies have come forward, as have the documents, attesting to the Party’s intentions. When the Soviet Union fell in 1989, those ideas pretty much went the way of the dodo in Russia, but they have been alive and well in this country for 80 years. People like William Ayers are proof.

Communism is – at best – a failed business model. At worst it is a recipe for slaughter. In its initial phases, communism depends upon arrogance, ignorance, deceit, and complicity. Its advocates and standard-bearers are typically messianic ideologues who use economic hardship to deceive well-meaning but woefully ignorant people into agreeing with its basic premises. Once in power, however, the communists themselves are merciless, for two reasons: one, communists have a deistic view of their own righteousness and benevolent intentions. And two, the principles of communism are fundamentally flawed and utterly at odds with human nature. Everyone is only “equal” in the eyes of God; using earthly measures (talent, ability, skills, interests, motivation), humans are as different as can be. Attempts to create equal results, as opposed to equal opportunity, are doomed to failure. Failure, in communists, produces frustration. And frustration, in communists, results in oppression.

Because of principle #2, above, communism has always resulted in economic deprivation – if not outright starvation - on a widespread scale. And so because of principle #1, the opposition – and this becomes a larger and larger segment of the population as time goes on – must be silenced, because they cannot be “converted.” When that is not enough (and it is never enough), they are jailed, sent to forced labor camps, starved, shot, flayed, buried alive, tortured, dismembered and killed in whatever novel and despicable ways the communists can come up with to silence dissent and usher in utopia.

These practices are not the exception. They are the rule. In the pantheon of the Unholy Church of Communism, the patron saints are Vladimir Lenin, Josef Stalin, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong Il, Fidel Castro, Pol Pot. Millions of people have suffered and died at the hands of these butchers – initially hailed as redeemers, visionaries, and liberators but who turned out to be nothing more than elitist bastards cloaked in the guise of “social equality” who thought they knew what was best for everyone else.

Communism has failed everywhere it has been tried. We have nearly 100 years and 100 million corpses as proof. The only people who believe otherwise are certain American liberals – because they are the most ignorant people on the planet, and because they have never had to live under it.

But never have the communists felt closer to achieving their goal than they are now. Make no mistake, they are waiting behind Barack Obama, panting and slavering at the prospect of taking over every branch of government, systematically dismantling the economic system that has provided our country with unprecedented prosperity and dissolving the procedural protections that have insulated us from the oppression, starvation, despair, and death that has accompanied communism and every other form of tyranny.

Americans seem ready to hand over their lives and livelihoods to this bloviating neophyte with associations so unsavory they should render his candidacy a joke. It would be inscrutable even if there were not so much precedent. We’ve all heard people exclaim, when examining incident after historical incident of genocide, or government oppression, “How could that have happened?” In the same breath, they assure themselves that it couldn’t happen here because, “America is different.”

This is breathtakingly ignorant, and it is a dangerous falsehood. There is NOTHING exceptional about Americans as human beings. We are subject to same whims, caprices, fears and lusts for power as every other human beings.

What is exceptional is our economic and political system. If we dismantle the very procedural protections that were put into place to protect us from tyranny (by people who had lived with tyranny and knew it well), then tyranny is what we will get.

And we are being lured into the same noose that has ensnared so many millions of hapless souls, despite reams of pages of history. We express horror at the Hitler Youth in little matching uniforms singing “Hitler will save us, Hitler is our Lord,” but then we smile and laugh as we see grade schoolers in matching blue t-shirts singing, “Obama’s gonna save us.” We are outraged by the army of children in Sudan, but think nothing of American black boys in camouflage pumping their fists and chanting propaganda from Obama’s campaign. We are repulsed by some dictators’ claims that they are gods, but shrug it off as insignificant when Louis Farrakhan – a vicious anti-semite, among other reprehensible things – says “the Messiah is speaking” in a speech referring to Obama.

Still don’t think it can happen here? Well, you’re in good company. Neither did the Russians. Or the Germans. Or the Chinese. Or the North Koreans. Or the Vietnamese. Or the Cubans. Or the Cambodians.

Critics will call this alarmist fear-mongering. So be it. Don’t say you haven’t been warned.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: bo; communist; communists; democrat; democrats; obama
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To: ladymac

It’s just Obamao disciples cleaning up the internet. Nothing to see here. /s


21 posted on 10/16/2008 8:01:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: ladymac
Sorry everyone that the link did not work.
I got the article and all the info from another board.

Well, looks like I was wrong about the Obamaoists (this time).

22 posted on 10/16/2008 8:03:21 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: weegee
Look at THIS, including a letter from American Christian missionaries in Kenya where Obama campaigned last year for his communist cousin Raila Odinga's run for the office of President of Kenya. Obama reportedly gave almost one million dollars to his cousin's campaign.

When Odinga lost he urged his mostly Muslim supporters to incite violence against the Christian voters who backed his opponent. The violence that followed his call for protests killed hundreds of Kenyans and displaced many thousands more. Obama's cousin Odinga was trained in communism in East Germany during the cold war, and has been jailed by Kenya's elected officials more than once for inciting violence in that nation.

23 posted on 10/16/2008 8:15:17 PM PDT by epow (My pastor prays God BLESS America , Barrak HUSSEIN Obama's pastor prays God DAMN America)
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To: Rsgood Dsbad; kingattax
No, it’s Obamunism.

Thought about that, but he'd insist on the entire name being in there.....just for dear old dad.

Have you seen this:

Goat Politics
Laura Dawn Lewis

SOCIALISM: You have two goats. You keep one and give the other to your neighbor and the government keeps any kids, (no one goat herder can be richer than the next).

COMMUNISM: You have two goats. The Government takes your goats and shares the milk with you and your neighbor but rations the wool at exorbitant prices and then forces you to cut any clothing made in half to share with the rest of the population.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two goats and your neighbor has two cows. The ruler decides since the goats aren't producing enough milk or wool and “Baa” each time he passes, there is a goat conspiracy. He orders all goats killed and creates new anti-goat laws. Since you tend goats, you are also considered an enemy of the state. One night you and your goats’ carcasses disappear never to be seen again. The next day the dictator changes the law. A bull charges him. Cows are now conspirators. That night your neighbor disappears and his cows are shot. Since the dictator has killed all of the milk sources he develops osteoporosis and blames the doctors. Doctors are now outlawed and considered conspirators.

MONARCHY: The king owns a herd of goats. By decree you are responsible for two goats. The king keeps all the milk, wool and any kids your goats have and sells the proceeds back to you at a steep mark-up. You then pay the king a tax for the privilege of caring for his goats on his lands and if you do a good job and don't cause trouble, he lets you stay. If you cause trouble, fail to pay his taxes or he is unsatisfied with your work, he takes his goats, locks you in prison and throws your family off his land.

FASCISM: You have two goats. You give the milk to the government. The government turns around and sells it back to you at a 400% mark-up, but only if you are the "right" kind of human being. If you're the wrong kind, not only will you have to buy the milk back at a 400% mark-up, you'll need to survive a walk through a mine field, numerous checkpoints and escape the refugee/concentration/internment camp to claim it.

ANARCHY: You have two goats. Your neighbors conspire to set you up. You are arrested by the secret police and never seen again. Meanwhile your neighbors steal your goats.

24 posted on 10/16/2008 8:20:53 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: patriot08

Link here

http://townhall.com/Columnists/LauraHollis/2008/10/16/time_to_use_the_c_word


25 posted on 10/16/2008 8:42:57 PM PDT by MNConserv
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To: patriot08

I’m preparing myself for the inevitable, “So what’s wrong with communism?”


26 posted on 10/16/2008 8:47:38 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: patriot08

Connect McCain’s name to any of those points and he would be mud. I’m disgusted with the media. Who out there is on our side?


27 posted on 10/16/2008 8:51:03 PM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: patriot08

Barry X wrote that he sought to emulate “Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.” Dubois and Mandela were both communists. Malcolm X was a black separatist and Martin Luther King, while not a communist was in fact a socialist and a communist sympathizer who opposed America’s fight against the communist Ho Chi Minh regime.


28 posted on 10/16/2008 8:55:34 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: patriot08; Hillarys nightmare

Excellent!


29 posted on 10/16/2008 9:41:50 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (War is sometimes necessary for weeding out the horrifically stupid.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Yes, this is correct. Many will die.


30 posted on 10/17/2008 10:33:50 AM PDT by Rsgood Dsbad
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To: madison10

“Thing is, the “kids” under 25, or so, don’t understand what Communism means.”

It isn’t just the kids. Half of Americans are as clueless to danger as the extinct Dodo bird was.


31 posted on 10/17/2008 10:45:20 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Brother, can you spare a dime?)
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To: Rsgood Dsbad

Yes they will. Of course, many (the unborn) have already died at the hands of these killers.

However, it will be the “born” who will be dying soon in this country.

What does Communism leave wherever it has gone:
starvation deaths
gulags - prison camps, farms
reeducation camps
an elite who have all they need
the masses in great hunger, need, want, poverty, filth
knocks on the door in the night
imprisonment/execution without real trials
ending of free press, freedom to worship God
Total corruption of government officials
Breakdown of infrastructure - roads, toilets
Pollution - lack of clean air, clean water
Physical attacks / cruelty / violence

THAT all is now coming to America.

But the deceived ones will not believe it til it hits. Them.


32 posted on 10/17/2008 6:46:52 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (We are now living in AMERIKA thanks to Comrade Obama's promised Communistic Changes in Missouri)
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To: patriot08
Here's my Dad's response to the article when I sent it to him, asking him if he agreed, for what it's worth:

"I have no doubt that Obama is a socialist… pure and simple. I’m not certain what flavour… Hillary was European socialist, no doubt there. Obama is more of the third-world-on-the-fringe-of-communism-but-not-quite-there-yet brand, I think. Whatever. What he is peddling is not good for this country, a nation of free and independent people seeking to better themselves through their own efforts, unfettered by an overbearing authority.

"The article lacks documentation in so far as some of its charges are concenrned, e.g. “sent government agents to intimidate American citizens who have said they don’t agree with him and will not vote for him”… “tried to use the offices of state Attorneys General to silence any opposition or dissent”.

"For those who don’t track Obama’s positions, minus specificity this comes off as fear-mongering and only gives the left more ammunition with which to fire back.

"And if that weren’t enough, the article finishes with a too-often used rhetorical device which in this case falls even flatter due to its being false: The Russians, Germans, Chinese, North Koreans, Vietnamese and Cubans did “think it could happen here” since they supported and participated in the revolutions which resulted in communist government. You might argue that they did not fully appreciate the full extent in which their daily lives would be affected, but to state they did not know that embracing communism would radically change the way their society was structured is folly… change (there’s that word again…) is what they were seeking!"

33 posted on 10/17/2008 7:30:35 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Communism's only killed 100 million people; let's try it again! Obamao for President!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Sorry, don’t agree.
Obama was nutured by Muslims/Communists.
He is a Communist.
The instances of gestapo style tactics in Missouri and intimidation of the TV stations WERE documented.


34 posted on 10/17/2008 10:32:31 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: patriot08

My Dad’s not denying that these incidents happened, it’s just that there’s little or no specificity mentioned in the article’s points. We, as FReepers, can believe it, due to other info we have read, and extrapolate from it what the Obamao is likely to do to critics once in office. However, the casual email recipient of the article is likely to see these points as hyperbole or fear-mongering. (These days, some recipients could see it as just fine with them, considering our country’s apparent lack of grounding people in the values of liberty.)


35 posted on 10/18/2008 9:19:27 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obamao for President! I won't settle for the lesser evil any longer!)
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