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Creationist Adnan Oktar offers trillion-pound prize for fossil proof of evolution
Telegraph ^ | 9/29/08 | Chris Irvine

Posted on 10/02/2008 5:18:59 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Adnan Oktar, a creationist and rival of Richard Dawkins, has offered trillions of pounds to any scientists who can show proof of evolution.

Mr Oktar, 52, who successfully campaigned for Mr Dawkins' official website to be banned in Turkey, has said he will give 10 trillion Turkish lira, roughly equal to £4.4trn "to anyone who produces a single intermediate-form fossil demonstrating evolution."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: challenge; creationist; evolution; piltdownman; trillion
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To: Ann Archy

“SHOW ME THE PROCESS....step by step, baby ....you can’t becaue the EVOLUTION can’t hopscotch....it has to be VERY PRECISE......”

It is, and the path is quite clear. Evolution and Christianity are completely compatible. Evolution IS Creationism.


21 posted on 10/02/2008 6:24:45 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: Buck W.

Weellllllll.....show us all, please.


22 posted on 10/02/2008 6:39:50 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Ask a specific question.


23 posted on 10/02/2008 7:32:50 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: allmendream

“Its not missing.
The links are all there.”

Oh, really?!?!?

Which one was the last ape and which one was the first human?


24 posted on 10/02/2008 7:41:31 PM PDT by G Larry ("Disgust" is a valid expression!-Vote Family Values!)
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To: G Larry
Why don't you tell me?

Are Neanderthals human?

25 posted on 10/02/2008 7:45:40 PM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: allmendream

Yes, Neanderthals are human AND coexisted with modern man.

Now, back to your claims.

Which was the last ape and which was the first man.


26 posted on 10/02/2008 7:56:07 PM PDT by G Larry ("Disgust" is a valid expression!-Vote Family Values!)
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To: G Larry
Which letter of the alphabet isn't an ape?
27 posted on 10/02/2008 8:35:41 PM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: Ann Archy
Way to Go, ADNAN!!!

By all means, feel free to cheer the Islamist and convicted criminal.

28 posted on 10/02/2008 10:38:30 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: allmendream

How did your pretense that there is no missing link turn into me having to prove your point?

Where is the transition from ape to man?


29 posted on 10/02/2008 11:58:47 PM PDT by G Larry ("Disgust" is a valid expression!-Vote Family Values!)
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To: LibWhacker
The Telegraph got this wrong, I'm afraid:
He is offering Turkish Lira, not New Turkish Lira,
1,000,000 TL = 1 NTL...
so, we are talking about
10 trn TL = 10,000,000,000,000 TL = 10,000,000 NTL = 8,200,000$
30 posted on 10/03/2008 3:02:19 AM PDT by bezelbub
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To: LibWhacker

A very safe bet because whatever fossil evidence may be presented will never be good enough. Thus, no money shelled out.


31 posted on 10/03/2008 5:32:49 AM PDT by DaGman
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To: G Larry
There it is. The transition is there.

When walking from a forest into a swamp there isn't a single line where the forest turns into a swamp, a clear line where one side of the line it is forest and the other side swamp. The forest just gets swampier and swampier until there you are.

Those skulls just get more and more human like until there you are.

32 posted on 10/03/2008 5:34:19 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: LibWhacker

Why does he need a fossil? The guy’s never heard of MRSA??


33 posted on 10/03/2008 5:34:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: allmendream

I don’t know which is worse, your lack of logic or your lack of science?

The “clear line” you’re avoiding is God’s creation of man.
Which is separate and distinct from any changes and adaptations that occurred in the ape species.


34 posted on 10/03/2008 7:28:51 AM PDT by G Larry ("Disgust" is a valid expression!-Vote Family Values!)
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To: G Larry
So how do you detect which skull had a soul given to him by God?

Where on that chart do you think humanity began?

35 posted on 10/03/2008 7:30:48 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: allmendream

I’m NOT playing your game!!

You would pretend that apes “evolved” and at some point God tossed in a soul.

They are different creations of God!


36 posted on 10/03/2008 7:36:06 AM PDT by G Larry ("Disgust" is a valid expression!-Vote Family Values!)
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To: G Larry
So you refuse to accept the evidence on the grounds of Biblical interpretation. That is fine, but lets not pretend that the fossils are “missing” as a result of your inability to deal with them intellectually. There they are.
37 posted on 10/03/2008 7:38:48 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: allmendream

I refuse to accept the photos as “evidence” on the basis of science.
Let’s not pretend that a sequence of unidentified photos are “proof” of anything.
What is “missing” is scientific evidence that one of these creatures “evolved” into the next!


38 posted on 10/03/2008 7:58:32 AM PDT by G Larry ("Disgust" is a valid expression!-Vote Family Values!)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


39 posted on 10/03/2008 8:01:38 AM PDT by avacado
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To: G Larry
So you think the pictures are inaccurate? The subject of fraud perhaps?

Nothing in Science is “proof”. Science doesn't deal in “proof” it deals in evidence.

The skulls are real. They are evidence of human evolution. You refuse to accept them as evidence because of your religious beliefs about special creation, God, and the soul. You said so yourself. Let us not pretend you have Scientific objections after the fact. You said the line between human and ape was determined by God, but there is no way of measuring which skull had a human soul and which did not, we can only determine to what extent those skulls are similar to modern humans. The older the fossil the less similar they are. Change is a species is evolution.

40 posted on 10/03/2008 8:07:31 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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