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The Godfather
NYT ^ | 09/23/08 | Dave Kehr

Posted on 09/24/2008 9:39:24 AM PDT by Borges

The “Godfather” films remain the 20th-century answer to Shakespeare’s plays of royal succession, with the twist that here Prince Hal grows up, not into Henry V, but Richard III.

Watching the first film, you are struck again by how little screen time Marlon Brando actually occupies. Most of his work is done in the 20-minute opening sequence, as the Godfather sits in his study, receiving supplicants on the day of his daughter’s wedding. This is a piece of superbly efficient expository writing, setting out an exotic milieu, describing its rules and moral configuration, and establishing the larger-than-life figure who presides over and protects it.

Like another venerated American epic, “Gone With the Wind,” the first “Godfather” film is essentially a study in vanishing feudalism: the old, aristocratic masters who made their empires out of sweat and blood are fading into the background, to be replaced by the middle-class, mercantile interests represented in “Gone With the Wind” by the blockade runner Rhett Butler and in the first “Godfather” by the drug-dealing upstart Sollozzo.

Part II takes place in a more modern world, where capitalism is king, and it is difficult to tell where gangsterism leaves off, and normal business procedures begin. The action shifts to a global scale, as the Corleones conquer Nevada and, very nearly, Cuba — and Mr. Coppola rises to the occasion with a sense of physical scale and epic conflict that no amount of computer-generated-imagery enhancement has yet been able to reproduce.

At the center of it all, of course, remains the family drama. In an increasingly rootless country American audiences envied the Corleones for their powerful sense of ethnic and family identity, the privilege of belonging to an extended, self-reliant and self-protecting group.

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To: wireman

Yep, he shows ZERO emotion when he tells a lifelong friend that he won’t do anything to save his life.


61 posted on 09/25/2008 8:50:48 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

De Palma’s Scarface wasn’t supposed to be realistic. It’s a highly stylized fever dream.


62 posted on 09/25/2008 8:53:58 AM PDT by Borges
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To: DieHard the Hunter
A bit off track but, I think, apropos....

I grew up in a 'Mafia' neighborhood. Carlo Gambino, the real 'godfather', lived two blocks over (a further aside - Jerry Seinfeld lived two blocks the other way).

We took it for granted that these guys were part of America's fabric. We know now of course that they weren't, they were an ugly, stupid, often damn silly aberration.

There was nothing noble or grand or profound about them. The reality of their lives could not be further from that which these movies portray, except for the killings. Two HS friends lost their fathers because they crossed the wrong guys.

Nope, the hook-nosed little bastard and his 'family' were nothing but a bunch of violent thugs.

The best way to describe the ones I knew would be Joey Buttafucco without a conscience.

63 posted on 09/25/2008 8:53:58 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: ichabod1
Whenever I see flamingos, I always throw the “Fly pelikangs, fly” line to whomever might hear it. But it's usually the missus, who invariably gives me the eye roll for bringing up anything connected to ‘Scarface’. But it gives me occasion to repeat my mantra of how “everything I ever needed to know I learned from ‘Scarface’ (and ‘The Godfather’)”.
64 posted on 09/25/2008 8:55:04 AM PDT by chimera
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To: wagglebee
You're so right.

When he tells Frank Pentangeli to kill himself, it's so ruthless. The civilized veneer only makes it seem worse.

Adieu, Frankie Five Angels. He snuffs out the cigar and leaves.

65 posted on 09/25/2008 8:56:39 AM PDT by wireman
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To: wtc911

Law Enforcement officials have said that The Godfather made it easier to spot gangsters as they started to emulate the gestures and body language of the characters from the film when interacting with each other. Those films have always been very popular with the Mob.


66 posted on 09/25/2008 8:58:42 AM PDT by Borges
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To: happygrl
I agree, again with your assessment; there was something about the Hagen character, and Duvall's appearance in this masterpiece that imbued it with the sense that we were seeing a real history of those times.

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See #63.

The real Hagen was named Sheridan. He lived next door to Gambino at the end of Club Drive in Massapequa. The movie is fiction, not history.

67 posted on 09/25/2008 8:59:12 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

Puzo said it was complete fiction based on stories he heard people tell in his neighboorhood growing up.


68 posted on 09/25/2008 9:04:38 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Half the paesans I knew on LI, Brooklyn, Queens, Jersey started to ‘walk the walk’ after the first one came out. They all talked like they had heavy fathers. Ninety-nine percent were wannabees. I knew a few of the one percent though. To this day if I had a certain kind of problem I still know a guy.


69 posted on 09/25/2008 9:05:15 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Clemenza

ping


70 posted on 09/25/2008 9:47:49 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wireman

I’ve come to appreciate GFIII more every time I watch it, but Sophia Coppala is a bad fit.

I LOVE De Niro as the early Vito Corleone in GFII


71 posted on 09/25/2008 10:00:08 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: wtc911; firebrand; fieldmarshaldj; PJ-Comix
Thanks for the ping.

Like another venerated American epic, “Gone With the Wind,” the first “Godfather” film is essentially a study in vanishing feudalism: the old, aristocratic masters who made their empires out of sweat and blood are fading into the background, to be replaced by the middle-class, mercantile interests represented in “Gone With the Wind” by the blockade runner Rhett Butler and in the first “Godfather” by the drug-dealing upstart Sollozzo.

Excellent summary, although it should be pointed out that the character of Vito Corleone represents a transitional figure between the "Mustaccio" (old-school Sicillian mafiosi represented by Don Fanucci) and the more Americanized second-generation Cosa Nostra (represented by Michael and Sonny). In the same way that Carlo Gambino overthrew the Mustacci, only to be succeeded by the Americanized thugs who got involved with heroin (in association with the Corsicans) and embraced the tacky McMansion-with-slipcovers-on-the-furniture lifestyle of the second and third generations, so too did the relatively smart and restrained Vito have his empire handed off to his spoiled, vain, and self-centered Americanized children.

My other favorite subtext of the Godfather saga is how the three sons all have many of their old man's fine qualities, while possessing negative traits that mitigate any symphathy we may have for them. Michael is intelligent, but also cold, selfish, and vain; Santino is tough, but also reckless and unpredictable, Fredo is warmhearted and kind, but fragile and not very intelligent, etc.

I see the saga as being one of fathers and sons, and how what we inherit from our fathers, positive or negative, can be utilized or squandered.

72 posted on 09/25/2008 11:11:34 AM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: wireman; Clemenza

Michael Corleone vs. Tony Montana... Who would win ? ;-)


73 posted on 09/25/2008 11:30:41 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Tony is alot like Sonny Corleone, albeit a little brainier. Recklessness may intimidate for a short time, but he who lives by the sword...


74 posted on 09/25/2008 11:37:11 AM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: Clemenza

Tony had better taste in women. I always wondered what Michael saw in the flaky and truly irritating Diane Keaton, although Simonetta Stefanelli’s Apollonia was adorable... “Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday, Saturday... !”

(And I learned the reports of the actress’s death a few years ago were false).


75 posted on 09/25/2008 11:50:13 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
No contest.

Tony Montana is a homicidal maniac. Michael is an intelligent homicidal maniac.

76 posted on 09/25/2008 11:54:10 AM PDT by wireman
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To: wireman; Clemenza

Let’s try for a more even field...

How ‘bout Santino Corleone vs. Tony Montana ?


77 posted on 09/25/2008 11:56:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Tony had better firepower, although Sonny would put up one hell of a fight.


78 posted on 09/25/2008 11:58:07 AM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: Clemenza

D’oh !

How ‘bout Fredo Corleone vs. Gina Montana ? ;-D


79 posted on 09/25/2008 12:00:06 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
We're goin' to the mattresses now!

I think Tony was smarter than Santino...

80 posted on 09/25/2008 12:05:59 PM PDT by wireman
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