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1 posted on 09/23/2008 3:14:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Aw, gees...I was just starting to get my mind around the concept of infinity and you have to come up with this crap...

Well, maybe now I know what our universe is expanding into...another universe, which is expanding into another universe, which...Hey, wait a minute. Is this one of those toys where you open one box to find another box inside, which you open to find another box, which you open...???

2 posted on 09/23/2008 3:18:48 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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Bizarre: to avoid belief in one God, ostensibly because His existence is not falsifiable, the materialist will resort to an infinitude of unobservable, and thus unfalsifiable, universes.

Occam’s razor favors theism.


3 posted on 09/23/2008 3:20:05 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (For real change stop electing lawyers: Fighter-Pilot/Hockey-Mom '08.)
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Infinite universes? Turtles on turtles? Occam’s razor seems to be getting thrown under the bus here.


4 posted on 09/23/2008 3:20:20 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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Lost me right after the promise of the title.


5 posted on 09/23/2008 3:24:07 PM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Sorry, Hillary, Sarah doesn't need all those cracks. She's just going to melt that glass ceiling.)
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6 posted on 09/23/2008 3:27:04 PM PDT by philled ("CNBC?...You might as well be doing ham radio at that point."-- Dennis Miller)
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As others have noted before, if the "purpose" of multiverses is to have everything that possibly could happen happen in one universe or another, then:

1) The number of multiverses is unimaginably large and where is the requisite mass and energy necessary to generate this ridiculously large number of universes?

2) In most universes within a multiverse, every two-slit light experiment will result in an equal amount of light going through each slit. But there will be countless universes where more light goes through one slit than the other, and two universes where all the light goes through either one slit or the other. Why is it that we happened to end up in a universe where half the light goes through each slit?

3) What about the cases where there are an infinite number of possible states for a system to be in? A lot of quantum systems must be in one of a finite number of possible states, but some systems can be in an infinite number of possible states. Are an infinite number of universes created every time one of these cases arises?

8 posted on 09/23/2008 3:28:53 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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Are there multiple Helens?

11 posted on 09/23/2008 3:36:05 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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"A Debate in Cosmology — The Multiverse"

How about "A Debate in Cosmology - Strategies for Papering Over the Fact That Something Doesn't Come From Nothing".

12 posted on 09/23/2008 3:37:18 PM PDT by Yardstick
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There’s no multiverse, it would be self contradictory, nice sci-fi, but in reality: NO!


16 posted on 09/23/2008 4:10:04 PM PDT by JSDude1
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17 posted on 09/23/2008 4:10:07 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: LibWhacker; econjack; The_Reader_David; rightwingcrazy; Paul Heinzman; LtKerst; ...
"The Multiverse: Big Bangs Without End"

This is merely a thinly veiled attempt to ignore the fact that cosmology and science point to a creation event.

If you read the article carefully there is no proof that the multiverse exists, but it is postulated as the solution to string theory.

Be careful, string theory has been postulated to solve lots of other sci-fi "problems" including time travel, warp speed, teen acne, and the like.

It's amazing that these scientist will blithely tie themselves in knots with elaborate theories instead of just acknowledging that it's looking darned likely that there is a God.

19 posted on 09/23/2008 5:07:04 PM PDT by tom h
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Another thread about NBA stars??


20 posted on 09/23/2008 5:10:00 PM PDT by djf (Sound of gunfire, off in the distance, I'm getting used to that now...)
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oh yeah? infinity plus one!


21 posted on 09/23/2008 5:14:42 PM PDT by nuf said (I am, therefore I think.)
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I don’t view it as “one of many”.

Rather, I see it as “layers”. A quantum layer. A relativistic layer. Others.

No “layer” can contradict another “layer”, so as long as they are in agreement, everythings hunky dory.


23 posted on 09/23/2008 5:28:53 PM PDT by djf (Sound of gunfire, off in the distance, I'm getting used to that now...)
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...it lays out a picture of not a single universe but rather a broader “landscape” in which the laws of physics vary from one region to another. It may be that only a small fraction of these regions have conditions allowing any kind of complex matter to exist, and hence intelligent life.

If one accepts the axiom that the conditions for each system are fundamentally different, then there can be nothing in this realm that can be analogous to the others. Hence his conclusion is nonsense.

32 posted on 09/23/2008 9:47:54 PM PDT by csense
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Since my early childhood I’ve been plagued with occasional dreams of extreme vividness and linear quality that relate an alternate life in the same body. The names of things familiar are different and technologies differ with further differences in histories, national boundaries while friends appear who I know (in the dream) I’d trust my life with - while having no counterpart here. It’s not even the same Mikel.

It’s varied from artist to politician to something in the medical field...very scary waking knowing procedures I’ve never been trained in! The knowledge faded quickly but looking up the details confirmed that that Mikel knew his stuff. That one made me consider parallel universes and the possibility that alternate selves may be “bleeding” into each other through proximity at certain times.

I know dreams are the brain’s regurgitation of events in an attempt to file and discard. These damn things occur once or twice a year and override any alarm clock. They’re realer than any other dreams and are logical start to finish.

I’d check myself into an institution if this wasn’t the sole totally nutty enigma. Sane on all other fronts except for “seeing” horns on Obama’s head where the Godless see a halo. Those horns are a controllable figment I prefer to retain.


44 posted on 11/18/2008 8:47:02 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Let's dress out some moose!)
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