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The Multiverse: Big Bangs Without End
Sky and Telescope ^ | 9/18/08 | Dan Falk

Posted on 09/23/2008 3:14:32 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 09/23/2008 3:14:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Aw, gees...I was just starting to get my mind around the concept of infinity and you have to come up with this crap...

Well, maybe now I know what our universe is expanding into...another universe, which is expanding into another universe, which...Hey, wait a minute. Is this one of those toys where you open one box to find another box inside, which you open to find another box, which you open...???

2 posted on 09/23/2008 3:18:48 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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Bizarre: to avoid belief in one God, ostensibly because His existence is not falsifiable, the materialist will resort to an infinitude of unobservable, and thus unfalsifiable, universes.

Occam’s razor favors theism.


3 posted on 09/23/2008 3:20:05 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (For real change stop electing lawyers: Fighter-Pilot/Hockey-Mom '08.)
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To: LibWhacker

Infinite universes? Turtles on turtles? Occam’s razor seems to be getting thrown under the bus here.


4 posted on 09/23/2008 3:20:20 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: LibWhacker

Lost me right after the promise of the title.


5 posted on 09/23/2008 3:24:07 PM PDT by Paul Heinzman (Sorry, Hillary, Sarah doesn't need all those cracks. She's just going to melt that glass ceiling.)
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selfping


6 posted on 09/23/2008 3:27:04 PM PDT by philled ("CNBC?...You might as well be doing ham radio at that point."-- Dennis Miller)
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To: The_Reader_David

Idiot Genius...Stephen Hawking says Everything was formed from “
Nothing”

What a Moron.


7 posted on 09/23/2008 3:27:52 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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As others have noted before, if the "purpose" of multiverses is to have everything that possibly could happen happen in one universe or another, then:

1) The number of multiverses is unimaginably large and where is the requisite mass and energy necessary to generate this ridiculously large number of universes?

2) In most universes within a multiverse, every two-slit light experiment will result in an equal amount of light going through each slit. But there will be countless universes where more light goes through one slit than the other, and two universes where all the light goes through either one slit or the other. Why is it that we happened to end up in a universe where half the light goes through each slit?

3) What about the cases where there are an infinite number of possible states for a system to be in? A lot of quantum systems must be in one of a finite number of possible states, but some systems can be in an infinite number of possible states. Are an infinite number of universes created every time one of these cases arises?

8 posted on 09/23/2008 3:28:53 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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I am going to be one of the first people in line to apply for the Job..

Tour Guide for one of those Universes...:)


9 posted on 09/23/2008 3:29:52 PM PDT by TaraP (A Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree)
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So I take it you are not a theist of any traditional sort. Classical monotheism, whether Christian, Jewish or Muslim, holds that the created world was created out of nothing, and that space and time themselves are created.

Hawking just provided a mathematical model of what a universe created ex nihilo might plausibly look like from within in terms of physical laws extrapolated from those we observe to extreme circumstances at the beginning of time.

The hold of atheism on the materialist mind is dismayingly strong: Hawking can’t see, or can’t accept, the obvious answer to his own question “What is it breaths fire into the equations and makes there be something for them to describe?”


10 posted on 09/23/2008 3:35:41 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (For real change stop electing lawyers: Fighter-Pilot/Hockey-Mom '08.)
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Are there multiple Helens?

11 posted on 09/23/2008 3:36:05 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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"A Debate in Cosmology — The Multiverse"

How about "A Debate in Cosmology - Strategies for Papering Over the Fact That Something Doesn't Come From Nothing".

12 posted on 09/23/2008 3:37:18 PM PDT by Yardstick
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to avoid belief in one God, ostensibly because His existence is not falsifiable

Yup, these guys spent all that time and money to get their PhDs just to piss you off. They are all militant atheists who really don't believe what they are saying. They are falsifying data to serve Satan. Thanks for opening my eyes. I don't want to be left behind.

13 posted on 09/23/2008 3:40:39 PM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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“Bizarre: to avoid belief in one God, ostensibly because His existence is not falsifiable, the materialist will resort to an infinitude of unobservable, and thus unfalsifiable, universes.”

+1


14 posted on 09/23/2008 3:48:51 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: dragonblustar

Is she the Queen Reptilian I have been reading about?


15 posted on 09/23/2008 3:51:03 PM PDT by TaraP (A Big Black Horse and a Cherry Tree)
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To: LibWhacker

There’s no multiverse, it would be self contradictory, nice sci-fi, but in reality: NO!


16 posted on 09/23/2008 4:10:04 PM PDT by JSDude1
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708438/


17 posted on 09/23/2008 4:10:07 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: econjack
Is this one of those toys where you open one box to find another box inside, which you open to find another box, which you open...???

The mind reels

18 posted on 09/23/2008 4:35:23 PM PDT by mikrofon (Image withheld in the interests of Public Decency ;)
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To: LibWhacker; econjack; The_Reader_David; rightwingcrazy; Paul Heinzman; LtKerst; ...
"The Multiverse: Big Bangs Without End"

This is merely a thinly veiled attempt to ignore the fact that cosmology and science point to a creation event.

If you read the article carefully there is no proof that the multiverse exists, but it is postulated as the solution to string theory.

Be careful, string theory has been postulated to solve lots of other sci-fi "problems" including time travel, warp speed, teen acne, and the like.

It's amazing that these scientist will blithely tie themselves in knots with elaborate theories instead of just acknowledging that it's looking darned likely that there is a God.

19 posted on 09/23/2008 5:07:04 PM PDT by tom h
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Another thread about NBA stars??


20 posted on 09/23/2008 5:10:00 PM PDT by djf (Sound of gunfire, off in the distance, I'm getting used to that now...)
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