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CHAMBERLAIN HAS 3-HOUR TALK WITH HITLER (9/16/38)
Microfiche-New York Times archives | 9/16/38 | No byline

Posted on 09/16/2008 5:33:48 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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To: Homer_J_Simpson
From Churchill, "The Gathering Storm":

"Anxiety grew steadily during August, and in the afternoon of September 2 I received a message from the Soviet Ambassador that he would like to come down to Chartwell and see me at once upon a matter of urgency..."

...The substance of what he told me was as follows:

"The French Charge d'Affaires in Moscow... had that same day called upon M. Litvinov [Soviet Foreign Minister] and, in the name of the French Government, asked what aid Russia would give to Czechoslovakia against a German attack, having regard particularly to the difficulties which might be created by the neutrality of Poland or Romania. Litvinov replied that the Soviet Union had resolved to fulfill their obligations. He recognized the difficulties created by the attitude of Poland and Romania, but thought that in the case of Romania these could be overcome.

"If, for instance the League decided that Czechoslovakia was the victim of aggression and that Germany was the aggressor, that would probably persuade Romania to allow Russian troops and air forces to pass through her territory...

He therefore advised that the Council should be invoked under Article 11, on the ground that there was danger of war, and that the League Powers should consult together. The sooner this was done the better, as time might be very short. Staff conversations ought to take place between Russia, France, and Czechoslovakia immediately about ways and means of giving assistance.

He also advocated consultation among the peaceful Powers about the best method of preserving peace, with a view, perhaps to a joint declaration including France, Russia and Great Britain. He believed that the United States would give moral support to such a declaration."

Needless to say, nothing came from Stalin's proposal. And that insult to Stalin, along with the collapse of British courage at Munich, helped convince Stalin that he must seek out other allies...

21 posted on 09/16/2008 8:17:50 AM PDT by BroJoeK (A little historical perspective....)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I liked the “wireless radio” that could tune other radios in the home. I have something like that now; I call it a “wireless router” and it links the four computers in my home (five when my son is home from Purdue).

Oh, the remote for the “wireless radio” looked so nice and compact!

I don’t think the wireless radio thing took off like the wireless router thing.


22 posted on 09/16/2008 8:20:46 AM PDT by henkster (Sarah Palin; the 2nd coming of Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: popdonnelly

My thoughts exactly when I read this article.

Call me a Nazi if you want, but I have the same reaction to Chamberlain and Daladier that Hitler did. They WERE little worms for not standing up to Hitler. It was no secret what Hitler was all about. He wrote about it in “Mein Kampf.” Yet elitist ivory tower fools like Chamberlain thought he could trust him!

We run the same risk of putting our nation in the hands of an elitist ivory tower fool named Obama, when the our world is still filled with power-mad dictators. And they are all the more dangerous because some of them have nuclear weapons, others are working on getting them. They also want to drop America a peg or two, and feast on our carcass. No wonder they are all in 0bama’s corner; they can’t wait to see 0bama waving his scrap of paper proclaiming “peace in our time.” And Achmedinijad would call 0bama “a little worm.”

There is one big difference between 0bama and Chamberlain. Neville at least had some brains. I suspect that 0bama really isn’t all that intelligent, based on his lack of academic success, post-school lack of achievement, and the numerous gaffes he spews out.


23 posted on 09/16/2008 8:31:04 AM PDT by henkster (Sarah Palin; the 2nd coming of Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Forget the soap - we all need to be getting our vitamins from one of those health drinks from Ireland.


24 posted on 09/16/2008 6:04:04 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: CougarGA7
This is the Czech's view on the situation.

That is haunting. It is a little hard to make out in places but I played it twice and got most of it. What a helpless postition those people were in. But they were the only ones to act honorably in the whole sorry affair.

25 posted on 09/16/2008 9:08:35 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson (How do I change my tagline?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; DAVEY CROCKETT; Calpernia; Velveeta

Another fantastic history report, thank you for putting it in order.


26 posted on 09/17/2008 3:46:22 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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That's the real tragedy of the ordeal. They were adamant that they would not cave to Hitler and were willing to fight to prove it. The Sudetenland was mountainous and well defended and they would have held out pretty good on their own, but had to have allied support in order to persevere.

Then along comes Chamberlain and he just sells them down the river. In many of the negotiations Honza was not even allowed to attend. After their defensive positions were given away by Chamberlain, it was just a matter of time before the rest of the country fell to the Nazis.

27 posted on 09/17/2008 5:45:39 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; Calpernia

Bump.

Thank you for all your work on these threads.


28 posted on 09/27/2008 7:24:58 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=451 SURVIVAL, RECIPES, GARDENS, & INFO)
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