TS Gustav & TS Hanna

NOAA/NHC ^ | August 28, 2008 | NOAA/NHC

[NautiNurse]

The 2008 peak of hurricane season is ramping up with Gustav and Hanna. The two storms pose threats to the U.S. At least 22 deaths in Hispanola are attributed to Gustav to date, and a Hurricane Warning is in effect for Jamaica. Tropical Storm Hanna has formed in the Atlantic.

Gustav	Hanna
Visible Satellite Image Loop Infrared Satellite Image Loop	Visible Image Loop Infrared Image Loop
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Public Advisory	Public Advisory
Discussion	Discussion
Buoy Data: Western Caribbean                   FL and East GOM                   Western GOM	East Caribbean West Atlantic Florida

Forecast Models

Category	Wind Speed	Barometric Pressure	Storm Surge	Damage Potential
Tropical Depression	< 39 mph < 34 kts			Minimal
Tropical Storm	39 - 73 mph 34 - 63 kts			Minimal
Hurricane 1 (Weak)	74 - 95 mph 64 - 82 kts	28.94" or more 980.02 mb or more	4.0' - 5.0' 1.2 m - 1.5 m	Minimal damage to vegetation
Hurricane 2 (Moderate)	96 - 110 mph 83 - 95 kts	28.50" - 28.93" 965.12 mb - 979.68 mb	6.0' - 8.0' 1.8 m - 2.4 m	Moderate damage to houses
Hurricane 3 (Strong)	111 - 130 mph 96 - 112 kts	27.91" - 28.49" 945.14 mb - 964.78 mb	9.0' - 12.0' 2.7 m - 3.7 m	Extensive damage to small buildings
Hurricane 4 (Very strong)	131 - 155 mph 113 - 135 kts	27.17" - 27.90" 920.08 mb - 944.80 mb	13.0' - 18.0' 3.9 m - 5.5 m	Extreme structural damage
Hurricane 5 (Devastating)	Greater than 155 mph Greater than 135 kts	Less than 27.17" Less than 920.08 mb	Greater than 18.0' Greater than 5.5m	Catastrophic building failures possible

[Petronski]

[SAJ]

Yah, Prof -- saw your posts over at OilDrum. Good site. Which is why I recommended it to NautiNurse, who started this thread. She's an absolute demon at keeping up w/'canes, I don't think she slept for 48-72 hrs before/during Katrina.

You might say I'm interested in crude and NG damage and disruption: I've traded futures for upwards of 35 yrs.

;^)

[rodguy911]

If I read that right its going to speed up a little but when it hits land the steering currents die off and it might stall as a depression, not good.

This means it will do some damage as a 4 hitting the coast and then do more flooding damage if it stalls, not good.

This could be a pretty devastating storm,a lot depends on how much water is dumped into the levees that protect NO.

[nwctwx]

Will Gustav weaken like many northern Gulf of Mexico Storms?

[proudofthesouth]

I was just thinking about you and your baby. I pray that you have a safe trip and don’t have to evacuate more than once. God Speed.

[rodguy911]

Absolutely,on the oil thread they were saying that the most damage will be done in about a 30 mile swath yet to be predicted.

[rodguy911]

If you look at this closely,with a cat 5 sitting off NO you gotta wonder how much surge will go where, that could be a big story in this storm.

160 MPH winds can inspire a huge surge, maybe 10-15 feet I don't know. That's a huge wall of water coming at you.

[abb]

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[proudofthesouth]

That is one huge eye!

[rodguy911]

I have heard that the port of NO is so vital to the countries energy security that no matter what happens they will always build it back 13 feet below sea level or not. Sounds like a huge task to me.

[Petronski]

The storm is ginormous. We can only pray it weaken and come ashore in a way that minimizes (given the situation) the surge.

[spectre]

We are supposed to leave Little Rock on Tuesday and be in Ft. Walton Beach (Okaloosa Island) Wednesday. Our condo manager won't give us a "refund" unless the "island" is closed.

They could care less that traveling down there would be a hazardous night mare, and then going home we have Hannah that could cut our trip short as well.

We're waiting to see what happens. Our monetary loss will be small compared to others..

sw

[rodguy911]

Is the big problem that we lose refining capacity during a big storm, not well productivity, since we have such a huge strategic reserve?

[Sunnyflorida]

Big eye does not corollate with strong winds. A small eye can be much stronger.

[libsmacker75]

“...22,000 people were so uneducated and so unprepared, they literally couldn’t get out of the way of a hurricane.” — Newt Gingrich speaking to CPAC.

Am I the only one here who suspects that New Orleans Urban population—criminals, welfare cheats, prostitutes, drug users—will behave the same way again? And that Bush will be held to blame by the Socialist bedwetters that populate the MSM?

Maybe our side will actually fight back this time.

[TornadoAlley3]

Morgan City, thanks. how far west is Morgan City from New Orleans?

[Sunnyflorida]

“I have heard that the port of NO is so vital to the countries energy security that no matter what happens they will always build it back 13 feet below sea level or not.”

But the port itself is not that many square miles or that many people working there. The problem is all the houses. I saw a story after Katrina that identified an area for the port that would be pretty much protected and not that far up river.

[Sunnyflorida]

“Is the big problem that we lose refining capacity during a big storm, not well productivity, since we have such a huge strategic reserve?”

Exactly the trading call is to short oil and long gasoline.

[rodguy911]

Wow very interesting,that poster made a pretty good case for Gustave not coming down much in intensity before a landfall,very interesting.

[greyfoxx39]

Borrowing a prayer from our Catholic friends:

Prayer for Hurricane Season

O God, Master of this passing world, hear the humble voices of your children.  The Sea of Galilee obeyed your order and returned to its former quietude; you are still the Master of land and sea.  We live in the shadow of a danger over which we have no control.  The Gulf, like a provoked and angry giant, can awake from its seeming lethargy, overstep its conventional boundaries, invade our land and spread chaos and disaster.  During this hurricane season, we turn to You, O loving Father.  Spare us from past tragedies whose memories are still so vivid and whose wounds seem to refuse to heal with the passing of time.  O Virgin, Star of the Sea, Our Beloved Mother, we ask you to plead with your Son in our behalf, so that spared from the calamities common to this area and animated with a true spirit of gratitude, we will walk in the footsteps of your Divine Son to reach the heavenly Jerusalem where a storm-less eternity awaits us. Amen.

Originally dedicated to the victims of Hurricane Audrey in 1957.

- Fr. Al Volpe, Cameron Parish, LA