Posted on 08/16/2008 5:38:38 AM PDT by WesternCulture
With Merkel, and Sarko, and Klaus, and Tusk it seems like we have pretty good relations with the Euros. Sure, the Spaniards turned tail and Blair retired. But Brown is on his way out and at the end of the day Spain doesn’t matter in any significant way. Berlusconi gets along w/ Bush. Where, then, is this mythical ‘poor relation’ w/ Europe?
And, ahem, given Europe’s record on terrorism - be it in Rwanda, or Madris, or Bosnia - why exactly do we care, when we are doing what’s right?
How is it that Europe (GB, France, Germany) won’t be overtaken by Muslim demographics and succumb to sharia law?
Italy too.
Huh?
i have traveled to at least 10 countries during his presidency and he is popular NOWHERE. and I hear this from people across all spectrums of politics, from every kind of foreigner you can imagine. you may disagree with their take, but you cannot disagree with the phenomenon that he is one of the least popular US presidents around the world in recent times. thems the cold hard facts from here, overseas folks. it isnt just all the liberal media.
i did not hear this take on Reagan overseas like this, but then again, Bush is no Reagan and Reagan considerably more conservative of course, as well as a polished and forceful leader with great depth.
Bush is criticized for not doing more to work with leftist euro trash “she” male led governments
The US pulled an unfair share of weight on Iraq.
Bush made the euro fags step up to the plate on Iran. They failed but then again what do you expect from soft, flabby socialistic societies?
Enjoy muslim rule starting in 20 years. Sweeden might make it ten more before it implodes.
Who cares? Our ancestors left Europe and fought a war to be free of it. Europe is nothing more than a vacation theme park for us (until the muzzies take over).
Maybe one day you Europeans will realize that most Americans don’t give a rat’s ass what you guys think of us or George Bush.
I’d be more worried if they liked him.
Reagan was liked I agree but so wasn’t Clinton. Carter is liked in the Arab world.
I think you make some good points.
The best analogy for Europeans is the ungrateful freeloading teenagers. He thinks his parents are mean because he doesn’t get exactly what he wants.
Europeans have been allowed to become spoiled and self-absorbed because the USA has for decades been picking up the tab for the truly adult activities of the world, most notably defense. They’ve been allowed to “invest” their money into unsustainable welfare schemes that make our Social Security look like paragons of financial solidarity.
So like any ungrateful teen they complain about the parents. Move into the real world, support yourselves for a few years without the enormous hidden subsidy of US maintenance of peace, the only thing allowing world trade, and then we’ll talk.
My favorite part is the bit about how Bush failed to maintain good relations with Europe. While true, it assumes that the responsibility for the relationship rests entirely on the US.
Perhaps Europeans have failed egregiously to respond appropriately to a common threat? Perhaps they prefer to believe that if they ignore it, it will go away or perhaps focus solely on the USA? Perhaps it’s Europe that has failed to maintain the relationship?
Actually, the assumption that it’s the US who is responsible for maintaining the relationship ties right back into the meme of who’s the adult (USA) and who’s the spoiled teenager (Europe). Can’t expect teenagers to behave responsibly.
The biggest problem Bush has is that when Tratorist activities such as Sandy Berger stealing Top secret info, Nancy Pelosi meeting with the enemy or the New York Times and L A Times releasing National Scurity information, Bush did not prosecute them. We should ask WHY?
KENNEDY, REAGAN, CARTER, NIXON
They seem ambivalent about:
BUSH 1, FORD.
And despised are:
JOHNSON, CLINTON, and GEORGE W. BUSH.
A mixed bag, but there you have it.
My parents told me that they were surprised when Harry Truman was starting to be admired in the 1970's, they said (they were both Dim's at one time) that while he was president, he was EXTREMELY unpopular.
Conservatives have good reasons to dislike some of Bush's positions, and his lack of verbal self-defense of his correct positions, but he will be remembered for his resolve on all issues as much as anything else.
U.S. Classified information will remain as such for a long, long time. Therefore, President Bush’s legacy will also remain open to interpretation for such a long time that the truth may never be known.
Exactly how does one do that? With money? How about you guys pay back the debt from WWII and we'll talk. How about reimbursing the cost of protecting Europe from the Russians for all those years?
Really. What can the U.S. do to make you guys like us?
“I don’t know or care what the Europeans think.”
Please allow me to translate your statement into sincere and honest language:
“I don’t wish to know what the world outside my house looks like”.
Above, I didn’t insult any other nation/continent, so don’t put up that kind of sissy attitude. What do you strive to accomplish in life - becoming the spokesman of Michael Jackson?
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