[paguch]

I don't know or care what the Europeans think. The Europeans, in time, will be remembered as ungratefull fools who as appeasers allowed the Russians to spirit the WMD,s to Syria and helped Iran get the nuclear bomb.

[Sherman Logan]

The best analogy for Europeans is the ungrateful freeloading teenagers. He thinks his parents are mean because he doesn’t get exactly what he wants.

Europeans have been allowed to become spoiled and self-absorbed because the USA has for decades been picking up the tab for the truly adult activities of the world, most notably defense. They’ve been allowed to “invest” their money into unsustainable welfare schemes that make our Social Security look like paragons of financial solidarity.

So like any ungrateful teen they complain about the parents. Move into the real world, support yourselves for a few years without the enormous hidden subsidy of US maintenance of peace, the only thing allowing world trade, and then we’ll talk.

My favorite part is the bit about how Bush failed to maintain good relations with Europe. While true, it assumes that the responsibility for the relationship rests entirely on the US.

Perhaps Europeans have failed egregiously to respond appropriately to a common threat? Perhaps they prefer to believe that if they ignore it, it will go away or perhaps focus solely on the USA? Perhaps it’s Europe that has failed to maintain the relationship?

Actually, the assumption that it’s the US who is responsible for maintaining the relationship ties right back into the meme of who’s the adult (USA) and who’s the spoiled teenager (Europe). Can’t expect teenagers to behave responsibly.

[paguch]

The biggest problem Bush has is that when Tratorist activities such as Sandy Berger stealing Top secret info, Nancy Pelosi meeting with the enemy or the New York Times and L A Times releasing National Scurity information, Bush did not prosecute them. We should ask WHY?

[WesternCulture]

“I don’t know or care what the Europeans think.”

Please allow me to translate your statement into sincere and honest language:

“I don’t wish to know what the world outside my house looks like”.

Above, I didn’t insult any other nation/continent, so don’t put up that kind of sissy attitude. What do you strive to accomplish in life - becoming the spokesman of Michael Jackson?

[penowa]

"The Europeans, in time, will be remembered as ungratefull fools who as appeasers allowed the Russians to spirit the WMD,s to Syria and helped Iran get the nuclear bomb."

That's IF there is anybody left to remember anything about the Europeans once they disappear into the Caliphate.

"...we have a responsibility towards our origin as well the future of Western civilization."

You'd never know it from their actions.