That's such bullshit. I have pictures I took a couple blocks from my house of a rather ordinary fire -- no jet fuel, just typical building contents -- in which steel I-beams sagged into "U" shapes.
Posted on 08/15/2008 8:41:20 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle
Last night on Hannity & Colmes, Colmes kept saying Jerome Corsi is a "truther" and can't be taken seriously.
I've been scouring the internet looking for evidence Jerome Corsi, author of Obama Nation, is a 9/11 "Truther." All find is links to left-wing nutjob website where they don't usually use evidence to back up their claims, including DU (which is funny, because a lot of them think Bush had something to do with 9/11).
Does anybody know anything or have quotes from Corsi? Has he addressed this anywhere?
From another thread:
“Jerome Corsi stated on the G. Gordon Liddy Show today that he was “UNEQUIVOCALLY NOT A NINE ELEVEN ‘TRUTHER’”, that he had long ago worked on an article about the disintegration of airplanes but that he had killed it.”
The following is directly from page 302. It is instructive of the precision maintained throughout the book, whether relating Obama’s connection to the thug Odinga in Kenya, or the Black Liberation Theology of Reverend Wright, the exhaustive objectivity results in precision:
“Obama will be beaten by detailed arguments that are well researched and fact based.
This is why, for example, we took pains to make it clear Obama did not attend a madrassa when he was educated as a child in Indonesia. CNN was able to go to Indonesia and document fairly easily that there was no madrassa at the public school Obama attended. A madrassa, to be precise, is a particular kind of Islamic religious school.
We were, however, able to prove that Obama had at least one year of instruction in Islam at the public school he attended in Indonesia, and we were able to prove that, in part, by reference to Obama’s own words. That is very different from attending a madrassa. We also refrained from claiming Obama is a Muslim because of that limited experience. We have carefully stated that Obama is the best authority on his religious beliefs and we will take him at his word.
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Yet, if voters perceive that Obama tilts in his current politics toward Islam, that conclusion alone will be detrimental to Obama’s chances in the general election.
Our argument is that Obama’s experience with Islam predisposes him to Islam in a way that is reflective of his political associates, his political advisors, and his specific policies regarding the Middle East. This is a very different argument than to claim Obama is a Muslim, something no one can prove one way or the other, except for Obama himself.”
(1) Steel doesn't need to melt to be weakened enough for it to fail under a heavy load.
(2) How did steel beams melt in the rubble of the WTC?
How did Japanese and Arabic smiths make implements from molten steel one thousand years ago? They used a furnace and a bellows to enhance heat and pressure allowing charcoal fires to burn hot enough to produce moldable steel.
In the vast WTC site, under millions of pounds of flammable building material, coupled with tunnels and crevices and natural wind acting as a bellows, the conditions were created for an enormous equivalent of a smith's forge.
Because he co-wrote Unfit for Command with John O’Neill who was a member of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Hence heis a “Truther.”
The kook, ALex Jones, is convinced the Bush Administration brought the Towers down. Don't fall for the leftists' effort to tie Jerome Corsi to that idiocy as a way to discourage people from reading the very revealing and factual book on the Marxist Obamessiah.
Final Reports of the Federal Building and Fire Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster
Yeah...uh, no kidding.
Given the WTC design, at what temperature and duration does a fire need to burn to create a symmetrical collapse (in three separate buildings)?
Of the more than 170 areas examined on 16 perimeter column panels, only three columns had evidence that the steel reached temperatures above 250ºC… Only two core column specimens had sufficient paint remaining to make such an analysis, and their temperatures did not reach 250 ºC. … Using metallographic analysis, NIST determined that there was no evidence that any of the samples had reached temperatures above 600 ºC. (NIST, 2005, pp. 176-177; emphasis added.)
At any given location, the duration of [air, not steel] temperatures near 1,000oC was about 15 min to 20 min. The rest of the time, the calculated temperatures were near 500oC or below.” (NIST, 2005, p. 127, emphasis added.)
NIST contracted with Underwriters Laboratories, Inc. to conduct tests to obtain information on the fire endurance of trusses like those in the WTC towers…. All four test specimens sustained the maximum design load for approximately 2 hours without collapsing… The Investigation Team was cautious about using these results directly in the formulation of collapse hypotheses. In addition to the scaling issues raised by the test results, the fires in the towers on September 11, and the resulting exposure of the floor systems, were substantially different from the conditions in the test furnaces. Nonetheless, the [empirical test] results established that this type of assembly was capable of sustaining a large gravity load, without collapsing, for a substantial period of time relative to the duration of the fires in any given location on September 11. (NIST, 2005, p. 141; emphasis added.)
And...since the pancake theory was long ago ruled out (and did not show, or take into account, the 40+ core columns)...what caused the symmetrical collpase of the three WTC towers?
bingo.
I wonder how the lime in the concrete could accelerate the heat build up as the concrete failed?
So reporters were in on the conspiracy too? Just how many people were part of this?
And...how/why did the concrete pulverize?
Heat makes concrete brittle.
Secondly how does the feed to the reporter telling the reporter that the building had collapsed happen prior to the building collapsing? If the building was to be control-demolished I can understand that and such a plan would perhaps have been heard by a reporter thus the reporter set up prior to the collapse, but the failure to be honest about the controlled demolition is a stupid act which feeds such kook conspiracy games.
It also occurs to me that the fire department has some understanding of buildings about to collapse during a fire and may have ordered the fire fighters out suspecting an imminent collapse, an order which reporters may have overheard and jumped to cover the collapse, without the collapse being a controlled demolition.
Colmes is right... Corsi is a Truther, I’ve done some research. Not only that, Corsi believes the canard about Bush wanting to make the U.S., Canada, and Mexico one giant country. That makes him a nut. He’s right about Obama, but the drunk at the end of the bar can occasionally be right too.
I forwarded this question to Jerry Corsi, who confirmed what I already suspected. He is by no means a 9/11 “truther” but supports the conclusions reached by the 9/11 Commission. Feel free to pass the word.
That's such bullshit. I have pictures I took a couple blocks from my house of a rather ordinary fire -- no jet fuel, just typical building contents -- in which steel I-beams sagged into "U" shapes.
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