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Pacoima Man Shot To Death Over Loud Car Stereo
cbs2 ^ | Aug 13, 2008 7:25 pm US/Pacific

Posted on 08/13/2008 8:18:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin

PACOIMA Police say a Pacoima man couldn't take the noise from his neighbor's car stereo anymore and shot him to death early Wednesday morning.

Raymundo Serrato, 58, died at the scene of the 2:15 a.m. shooting in the 13000 block of Kelowna Street, said Officer Kate Lopez of the Los Angeles Police Department's Media Relations Section.

Lopez said the man was shot by a Jubenal Guillen, 55, during a dispute. Guillen was arrested on suspicion of murder.

"There were words exchanged; a scuffle," LAPD Detective Pat Barron said. "And after the scuffle -- or during the scuffle -- the suspect produced a firearm and shot the victim."

A woman who lives in the neighborhood said that the younger man regularly came home in the early morning hours and made a lot of noise, which may have upset his 58-year-old next-door neighbor.

"So I guess he, just, probably, had enough. He had enough, so he shot him," Lisa Velasquez said.


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1 posted on 08/13/2008 8:18:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Precedent?


2 posted on 08/13/2008 8:24:06 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: BenLurkin

58 is younger than 55? Or might we have a typo? :-)

MM


3 posted on 08/13/2008 8:24:41 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan

Here I was trying to reassemble this thing because the numbers don’t fit the words. I am too tired to do this for now.


4 posted on 08/13/2008 8:33:38 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: BenLurkin

Pacoima has been the “hood” for as long as I can remember. I can’t imagine this really being big news these days. Maybe cuz it wasn’t gang related? LOL


5 posted on 08/13/2008 8:37:40 PM PDT by Peleliu1944 (Susan Estrich - a face for radio and a voice for pantomime.)
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To: MississippiMan

yeah, i saw that too. how can we trust the rest of the article when simple things like this seem to be wrong?


6 posted on 08/13/2008 8:37:48 PM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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To: MississippiMan

I think young 55 year old punk liked to blare the rock n roll when he came home early in the morning. This particular morning the old man of 58 was fed up and decided to get in his face. A fight then ensued, during which the punk shot the geezer and killed him. This interpretation makes the words and numbers match up, but then the headline doesn’t quite fit.


7 posted on 08/13/2008 8:39:52 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: SouthTexas

Since the US Army used loud music to drive the pineapple nuts, this guy may have a good defense? [I am not sure if the US has used loud music at Gitmo?]


8 posted on 08/13/2008 8:42:11 PM PDT by JLS
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To: SouthTexas

Since the US Army used loud music to drive the pineapple nuts, this guy may have a good defense? [I am not sure if the US has used loud music at Gitmo?]


9 posted on 08/13/2008 8:42:12 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Yardstick

I must confess that when a car rolls by with a deafening cacophony of distorted bass, I do sometimes have a strong desire for a rocket launcher. I doubt I’d really fire it, but... :-)

I’m always amazed that someone could listen to something that sounds so laughably bad and be proud of it.

MM


10 posted on 08/13/2008 8:45:22 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Yardstick
55 year old punk and 58 year old geezer... both geezers

When you reach your 50's , I'd naturally assume that all that sort of thug mentality - and blaring your car stereo for all to enjoy - would be out of the blood.

11 posted on 08/13/2008 8:45:38 PM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: JLS

That’s what I was thinking. Sleep deprivation. I’m already inclined to go easy on him.


12 posted on 08/13/2008 8:51:38 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: NativeSon; Yardstick
> 55 year old punk and 58 year old geezer... both geezers When you reach your 50's , I'd naturally assume that all that sort of thug mentality - and blaring your car stereo for all to enjoy - would be out of the blood.

Now wait a cotton-pickin' minute...

I'm 56, and I like playing music pretty damn loud sometimes... I've got a 2000-watt PA system for my band and when I crank that sucker up it can knock any car stereo into next week.

That said, I play rock and blues and jazz, not ghetto-crap. IF the 55-yr old was playing loud [c]rap, I'd probably think about shooting him too.

"Geezer" my @$$.... ;-)

13 posted on 08/13/2008 8:55:25 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: MississippiMan

I hear you on the rocket launcher. My favorite is when they leave the stereo blaring with no one in the car, like at the gas station they’ll head inside for a bag of chips or whatever and leave it going.


14 posted on 08/13/2008 8:56:41 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: dayglored
no offense old timer, j/k, I was lookin' to get rise out of someone.

Seriously though, at your age, at my age, are we not passed that sort of sh*t?

unless there's JD involved of course, dang that firewater...

15 posted on 08/13/2008 8:58:55 PM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: JLS

Works for me, except if it’s my music of course. ;)


16 posted on 08/13/2008 9:04:47 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: NativeSon
> no offense old timer,

OUCH! ;-)

> j/k, I was lookin' to get rise out of someone.

I guess you did, too...

> Seriously though, at your age, at my age, are we not passed that sort of sh*t?

Depends. Most days, yeah. Some days, I crank up the music pretty loud. I still play a mean electric guitar, and there are days when work's been a bitch and I come home and all the wood is already chopped, and slamming out some screaming blues is Just Right.

I live way the hell out in the country. Nobody minds.

> unless there's JD involved of course, dang that firewater...

I favored JD until around 2000, then I switched over to tequila -- only good stuff, mind you -- and while I still can shoot whiskey, I prefer a good Anejo.

And yes, when my band plays out, the firewater contributes to the overall volume...

17 posted on 08/13/2008 9:14:21 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: BenLurkin

Got one who drives through my neighborhood at 3 AM. Not saying its right, but I understand.


18 posted on 08/13/2008 9:27:09 PM PDT by packrat35 (If mccain is the answer-it must have been a REALLY stupid question)
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To: BenLurkin

Ah, the good old days, when my neighbors in Brooklyn wouldn’t stop blasting Reggaeton. I responded by blasting “Scotland the Brave” toward their window. It worked, until the were finally evicted by my landlord.


19 posted on 08/13/2008 9:31:07 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: dayglored

theres a geezer about 70 or so in youtube mugging to “this is why i’m hot” song on youtube.....teh funny


20 posted on 08/13/2008 9:48:14 PM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophagus)
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