Posted on 08/01/2008 5:04:06 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
This is one of the first installments from Free Republic's Gun Club. It's going to be a daily discussion on subjects covering firearms, Gun Rights and overall firearms experiences.
Some years ago, Friday seemed to be the time to post photos of our favorite toys. I volunteered to make it a weekly occurance.
One of the things I did learn through the years, though. It's not the gun. It's just a tool in the hands of the person who makes it happen. That rusty and pitted .38 revolver may not look like much but to the owner, it may have helped in getting out of a lot of scrapes. Also, that match pistol may look good but it might have been instrumental in losing more matches than the one half it's price and bone stock.
So let's see 'em. The pretty ones, the ugly ones and the dusty ones including the old favorite grampa gave us when he passed on.
I want to thank all who posted especially the ones who posted pictures. My comments page looks like a gun catalogue.
Now for the question. Do I start another thread next week or continue this one with a start up post on the subject and pinging all who responded today?
I would rather continue and see how far we can continue. If it dries up, I’ll start another subject with a thread and ping everyone. Comments?
When I get enough money.
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Can't match scores but it just feels right.
Good Deal 2.5 !
Nuthin like gun porn to make a shooters day !!
Thanks !
Stay Safe !
Im seeing it on Sunday morning.
Yeah that works okay. Except that I always have a different mental image of Brenden Fraser. Which I associate with Saterday mornings of days of yore.
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Just watch this video next time. There are a few differences between the M1911A1 and the recent S&W model, notably the extractor, but not enough to be any sort of a big deal.
One of the real advantages of the M1911 is its ability for a user to completely disassemble and reassemble it without any special tools or fixtures. Certainly a screwdriver is helpful for the grip screws, but the back of the sear spring can be used for that purpose if necessary.
I'm working on something along just those lines.
My son will graduate from High School in 2 years and has his heart set on going there. I have heard it is the best gunsmithing program in the nation. Can anyone confirm that or suggest other colleges?
You might want to consider sending him to this summer camp for the summer between his Junior and Senior years. It might give him thoughts about another- [and better paying!] career.
In general, anything related to the machine tool trades or tool and diemaking is a real good foundation for serious modern gunsmithy operations- and if working as an independent, the basics of small business operation are a must. Funny thing is, the really good smiths I know are crying for serious and reasonably well-qualified apprentices. A lot depends on what direction within the industry your son might have an interest in pursuing, but yeah, there's a lot of opportunity out there.
Thanks for the info on that camp. I can’t wait to show him. Not sure it will change his mind, but I know he will be interested.
That one's # 69C8703, the handgun used by John Wayne's character in the 1974 movie McQ when he wasn't spraying lead around with one of Mitch Werbell's then-new Ingram M10 SMGS, reportedly the first motion picture use of the Ingram SMG. The movie gun had a *standin* double for filming backup, as is common practice in the industry, #69C8706.
Mine is # 69C8705, in about the same condition as the *famous* 69C8703, and pretty close in appearance.
An Old Man
It's not a 1911, but a Browning GP or *Hi-Power* of late 1960s vintage, used by actor John Wayne in the 1974 motion picture McQ, about which more info *here*.
Though both designs were the brainchild of John Moses Browning, The HP was designed by John M. Browning circa 1925 and patented in the USA in 1927 shortly after Browning's November 1926 death. The design was then refined by Belgian designer Dieudonne Saive [who later gave us his efforts in the form of the FN49 and FAL rifles] who eliminated the striker-fired feature included in Browning's two original prototypes, and utilized several features of Browning's 1911 when the patents for it expired in 1928, including a removable 1911-type muzzle bushing not present on the final 1935 version. The French military specifications called for a magazine capacity of at least 10 shots with a loaded weight under one kilogramme, and Browning's prototypes offered staggered-row magazines with a 16-round capacity. Saive developed the magazine further, taking inspiration from the post-WWI Estonian Talinn SMG magazine, at that time the most compact width/thickness 9mm magazine available. The finished sample held 13 rounds, which with a little follower rework can result in a reliable working capacity of 14 in the magazine and one additional chambered round without the magazine extending prominently from the pistol's butt.
Colt's 1910 .45 pistol prototype had some problems with locking of the slide stop, and the required addition of the manual thumb safety, resulting in the final 1911 design's inclusion of a spring housing that drove a plunger at either end, one for the slide stop and another providing a positive latch for the thumb safety. On the P-35 this was eliminated.
The French commission tested the result in 1925, their requests for improvements resulted in the Mle 1928, very close to what production guns would resemble, with the magazine capacity reduced to 13 rounds in order to meet the French 1-kilo weight requirement. Since the guns were to be produced at the Belgian FN factory rather than in France, the French instead adopted the MAS design of 1935, and the grip of the 1929 design curved to allow a better grip on the weapon. In 1934 the final design entered production, and in 1935 it was adopted by the Belgian military as the Model 1935, followed shortly thereafter by an order from Finland for a version with an adjustable rear sight for their air force, delivered circa 1939, just in time for the new pistol to see use in the Russo-Finnish *Winter War* resulting from the November invasion of Finland by Soviet forces.
The Beginning: Second [locked breech] Browning Model 1922 prototype:
The refinement: The Model 23 *Grand Reudement,* with Saive's external hammer, manual safety, magazine safety and simplified takedown:
Model 1928 type:
The final result: Finnish PreWar [WWII] Air Force P.35
Your pictures are just fine. I can make out everything I want to. But I don’t quite know what that is on the top. MP-5?
I can give you a little hint. There’s nothing like indirect sunlight for taking photographs.
The photo I took of the Taurus was my second attempt. The photos that didn’t work had the reflection of my outer brickwork from the house. It looked like the pistol was rusty. There’s still a little bit on the thumb safety.
Then there’s always photoshop for people like me who forgot to clean some of the muzzle blast from the slide.
A further tip from another poster said to blur out your serial numbers. There’s no reason to invite problems.
Not quite. It is a HK94 converted to 10mm by Murray urbach, and a registered SBR. It used to be the primary host for my last registered HK sear, which I sold last year.
A further tip from another poster said to blur out your serial numbers. Theres no reason to invite problems.
Thanks for the tip. I'm not too worried about it; I have the tax stamps. ;0)
This is one of my smaller carry pieces, 3” S&W 396 in .44 Special with 200 gr Gold Dot Hollowpoints. So light you don’t know you’re carrying, but when you light one up, you know something happened.
http://www.cqbarms.com/photos/albums/userpics/10038/normal_100_0021.JPG
Nice one.
When are you coming out to the Terrell IDPA matches? The matches are on the third Saturday.
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