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XP still killing Vista in sales volume: HP
APC ^ | 28 July 2008, 3:03 PM | Dan Warne

Posted on 07/30/2008 11:26:26 AM PDT by Salo

Business PC buyers are still overwhelmingly opting for XP, computer giant HP has revealed.

HP's revelation, made at the launch of a new range of business notebooks, flies in the face of Microsoft's persistent PR claims that Vista has sold tens of millions of copies — and is selling at a faster rate than XP ever did.

However, HP explained how Microsoft is coming up with these "Vista" sales figures.

"From the 30th of June, we have no longer been able to ship a PC with a XP licence," said Jane Bradburn, Market Development Manager, Commercial Notebooks for HP Australia.

"However, what we have been able to do with Microsoft is ship PCs with a Vista Business licence but with XP pre-loaded. That is still the majority of business computers we are selling today."

So, in other words, Microsoft counts a sale for Vista, even though the computer manufacturer has really sold XP.

Rob Kingston, Group Manager of Commercial Product Marketing for HP said, "Looking into the crystal ball, I don't think businesses will see much value in upgrading to Vista until late next year, and even so, Microsoft will probably have come out with something else by then."

HP's revelation casts doubt over Microsoft's claims about how many copies of Vista have been sold, as HP has made clear that although a sale may be counted as 'Vista', it may actually be XP.

Microsoft has told HP it will no longer be able to do this after January 2009, but HP's Jerel Chong, Market Development Manager, Commercial Notebooks, said the number one PC maker was already in discussions with Microsoft about how it could push this deadline back.

He said it actually suited HP well only selling Vista licences but actually being able to ship either Vista or XP on the computer. "There's a lot of extra administration that goes with offering both XP and Vista on every computer, and it's all in one now," he said.

He said the feedback he was getting from customers was that they simply hadn't had the time to do full compatibility testing of all their business applications with Vista yet and that the high time and monetary cost of rebuilding system images wasn't worth it while the economy was down.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: microsoft; vista; xp
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I'm shocked.....
1 posted on 07/30/2008 11:26:28 AM PDT by Salo
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To: ShadowAce

Tech ping.


2 posted on 07/30/2008 11:26:58 AM PDT by Salo
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To: Salo

They should have named it, Windows ME 2007


3 posted on 07/30/2008 11:28:57 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Salo
"I don't think businesses will see much value in upgrading to Vista until late next year after the entropic death of the universe.."

Fixed it, no need to thank me.

4 posted on 07/30/2008 11:32:05 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (My grandkids will ask-Was there really a time when I could get on a plane without removing my shoes?)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

5 posted on 07/30/2008 11:33:10 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Golden Eagle

Ping.

Bring knee pads...


6 posted on 07/30/2008 11:35:43 AM PDT by null and void (Barack Obama - International Man of Mystery...)
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To: Salo

Interesting.
The hd shot craps on my laptop.
I figured it was worth 50 bucks to replace it rather than buy a new one with Vista.
Nobody I asked said Vista provided any advantage to them so........
About 4 hours of work, but worth it IMHO.


7 posted on 07/30/2008 11:39:14 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Salo
Windows 95 was significantly better than Windows 3.1.
Windows 98 was significantly better than Windows 95.
Windows XP was significantly better than Windows 98 (we will not speak of ME).
Windows Vista is significantly prettier than Windows XP.

Has anyone other than Microsoft released a Vista only program yet other than cutesy screen gadgets? It wasn't all that long ago when developers finally abandoned Win 98 compatability and started requiring XP.

8 posted on 07/30/2008 11:39:26 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Whale oil: the renewable biofuel for the 21st century.)
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To: null and void
Ping. 

Bring knee pads...

Dang! 

9 posted on 07/30/2008 11:40:46 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (The McCainiac's creed: Death to America by a thousand cuts)
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To: Salo

I have one steaming pile of crap desktop with Vista. A driver can’t be found for the new printer I bought at the same time. It runs hot, shuts down when it overheats. Just a general pile of junk.

Big box store screwed up my order for an XP desktop replacement and a laptop and now can’t find the machines I want with XP.

So, after being with Microsoft since the beginning of time to run my small office, I’m switching to a Mac.

If I put out a piece of junk like Vista, my company would be dead.


10 posted on 07/30/2008 11:44:48 AM PDT by abbi_normal_2
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To: Salo

Microsoft’s determination to force Vista down the throats of its unwilling customers has a lot to do with DRM.


11 posted on 07/30/2008 11:45:01 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Dr. Sivana

Windows BOB 2007.


12 posted on 07/30/2008 11:46:49 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: KarlInOhio

you forgot windows 2000, which was a big improvement over 98, but you are spot on.

vista BLOWS.


13 posted on 07/30/2008 11:47:03 AM PDT by philsfan24
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To: KarlInOhio

Windows 2000 Pro was a very good OS.


14 posted on 07/30/2008 11:56:02 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Salo

Wow! Almost a half hour and the Microsoft vendors haven’t showed up and flooded this thread with multiple “Vista is really wonderful, you are just too stupid to realize it!” or “Vista is great, it’s your fault for not spending $1000s of dollars & weeks of you spare time upgrading your brand new computer” posts.

Must be a record


15 posted on 07/30/2008 11:58:42 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: philsfan24

Windows 2000 was an update of NT, not 95, 98, Me, or any other OS designed for home use.


16 posted on 07/30/2008 11:59:18 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Delphi for me.)
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To: KarlInOhio
It wasn't all that long ago when developers finally abandoned Win 98 compatability and started requiring XP.

Heh. Microsoft just recently announced that it will be ending support for Windows 3.11 embedded.

Because moving from one version of Windows to another just means you have a whole bunch of new bugs to learn how to get around.

17 posted on 07/30/2008 12:01:25 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: rawhide
Windows 2000 Pro was a very good OS.

Still is. My old desktop keeps a' chuggin'...

But mostly I'm using my XP laptop which is a lot newer.

18 posted on 07/30/2008 12:01:48 PM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: ComputerGuy

“Windows 2000 was an update of NT, not 95, 98, Me, or any other OS designed for home use.”

So is XP


19 posted on 07/30/2008 12:04:15 PM PDT by NathanR ( Drill here. Drill now. Pay less.)
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To: Salo

aside from a couple of minor annoyances, I’m actually enjoying Vista


20 posted on 07/30/2008 12:04:24 PM PDT by DeLaVerdad
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