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Lost in Space (What really happened to Russia's missing cosmonauts?)
Fortean Times ^ | 7/2008 | Kris Hollington

Posted on 07/20/2008 3:58:18 PM PDT by Renfield

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1 posted on 07/20/2008 3:58:18 PM PDT by Renfield
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I say BS! During reentry, a capsule is surrounded by ultra-hot, ionized gasses that make radio transmissions impossible. There is no way they could have heard such a thing, and moreover, once in orbit (essentially falling around the earth due to gravity), without some means of additional propulsion, it is impossible for a spacecraft to simply veer off course and fly off into space.


2 posted on 07/20/2008 4:10:53 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Renfield
I'm no expert but if even half of this is true it would make a great movie.

Or Hollywood could remake "The Day the Earth Stood Still" with Keanu Reeves

3 posted on 07/20/2008 4:13:59 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Renfield

what an awesome find.

thank you.


4 posted on 07/20/2008 4:16:35 PM PDT by Libertarian4Bush (the underwear goes UNDER the pants! that's why they call it under-******-wear!)
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To: Renfield

Amazing.


5 posted on 07/20/2008 4:18:38 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Fire the CIA and hire the Free Clinic, someone who knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Renfield

Absolutely fascinating. Thanks for posting this.


6 posted on 07/20/2008 4:20:24 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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There are those who believe that somewhere in the vast blackness of space, about nine billion miles from the Sun, the first human is about to cross the boundary of our Solar System into interstellar space. His body, perfectly preserved, is frozen at –270 degrees C (–454ºF); his tiny capsule has been silently sailing away from the Earth at 18,000 mph (29,000km/h) for the last 45 years. He is the original lost cosmonaut, whose rocket went up and, instead of coming back down, just kept on going.

That is one helluva zot.

7 posted on 07/20/2008 4:20:35 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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ping


8 posted on 07/20/2008 4:28:13 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Renfield

bttt for later


9 posted on 07/20/2008 4:34:17 PM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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A close friend of mine that was an engineer @ JPL said that they used to monitor the Russian capsules and that most of the first ones (many) that when the heart monitor quit and everything else was still functioning they knew that the cosmonaut had reached space temperature.
10 posted on 07/20/2008 4:38:24 PM PDT by dalereed (both)
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bump for later read


11 posted on 07/20/2008 4:41:16 PM PDT by VOA
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“That is one helluva zot.”

Someone needs to buy Gore a trip like that!

One way trip to space at 0 kelvin or better yet straight to the sun!


12 posted on 07/20/2008 4:41:50 PM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: Renfield

Thanks for posting, bookmarked for later.


13 posted on 07/20/2008 4:42:52 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Renfield

interesting


14 posted on 07/20/2008 4:46:02 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

> I say BS!

I suspect Oberg agrees. I don’t recall any of this from
his book “Red Star in Orbit”.

> During reentry, a capsule is surrounded by ultra-hot,
> ionized gasses that make radio transmissions impossible.

Only in front and aside of the shock cone. Directly aft,
radio still works, but it requires a commsat astern.
NASA TDRS sats allow continuous comm with the shuttle this
way. Prior to TDRS, yep, blackout.

> ... once in orbit (essentially falling around the earth
> due to gravity), without some means of additional
> propulsion, it is impossible for a spacecraft to simply
> veer off course and fly off into space.

No, there are some scenarios, but all of them require
escape delta-V, making it a bit of a stretch, failed
trans-lunar orbits and the like.

None of which is to say that there aren’t cosmonauts
unaccounted for.


15 posted on 07/20/2008 4:48:18 PM PDT by Boundless (Legacy Media is hazardous to your mental health)
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To: Renfield; SeraphimApprentice; zot

Thanks for posting this interesting article


16 posted on 07/20/2008 4:48:27 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: Renfield

Thanks for the fascinating post. Bump for later.


17 posted on 07/20/2008 5:01:49 PM PDT by Skooz (Property taxes are immoral)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

That got me too. Jim Oberg must have known these guys well. His “Soviet Space Disasters” makes it clear that there is simply no hard evidence for any of these lurid, unproven stories.

I don’t see how a Soyuz booster rocket could (even if it had the extra fuel and burned out of control) achieve escape velocity from the sun’s gravitational well.


18 posted on 07/20/2008 5:03:00 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Renfield

Fascinating stuff.


19 posted on 07/20/2008 5:04:03 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: rabscuttle385

Actually he is not zotted, if I understand zot in the way the BC comic strip originally intended, and is used here, as in Viking Kitty electrocutions.

If he is at near absolute zero, isn’t he more than cyrogenically preserved?

In a few billion years he may be intercepted and revived.

At least he stands a better chance of a second mortal life than I do.


20 posted on 07/20/2008 5:04:38 PM PDT by bajabaja
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