Posted on 07/20/2008 3:58:18 PM PDT by Renfield
Five weeks later, on 19 May 1961, the brothers picked up what is now their most infamous recording, which they claim is of a woman cosmonaut whose ship burned up on re-entry. Then, a few days after this, they picked up a tantalising few seconds of another transmission: Conditions growing worse, why dont you answer? Both recordings are clear and accurately translated.
TORRE BERT
The brothers got permission to take over a disused German bunker on the outskirts of Turin at a place called Torre Bert. Reclaiming all the scrap metal and old pipes they could find, they enlisted the help of a dozen student volunteers and constructed a series of antennæ, eventually creating a super-dish with a diameter of 15m (50ft) and weighing one and a half tonnes.
The brothers stuck a sign on the bunker wall: Torre Bert Space Centre. Inside, using discarded WWII American army equipment, they created an exact replica of Cape Canaveral, including an enormous map of the world behind a Perspex sheet along with an LED display that marked satellites progress.
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There are those who believe that somewhere in the vast blackness of space, about nine billion miles from the Sun, the first human is about to cross the boundary of our Solar System into interstellar space. His body, perfectly preserved, is frozen at -270°C (-454°F); his tiny capsule has been silently sailing away from the Earth at 18,000 mph (29,000km/h) for the last 45 years. He is the original lost cosmonaut, whose rocket went up and, instead of coming back down, just kept on going.Whoops. Seems like they'd now take credit for this "first", if it were true.
The USSR under Kruschev (sp?) also made a few attempts to orbit craft, send pictures, and "land" (crash) on Mars, but missed badly. I think there's a description of those on Oberg's website. FWIW, Oberg also dumps all over this Ilyushin story.Explorer Hero: Sergei Vladimir Ilyushin, Jr.On April 7th, 1961, five days before Gagarin's successful flight, Ilyushin was launched and entered orbit. There had been no publicity around the launch. After three orbits Ilyushin lost contact with the mission control engineers on the ground. During the reentry, when he was supposed to eject from the capsule and parachute to safety, Ilyushin was unable to eject (he had lost consciousness as some point during the flight) and made a "hard landing" in the capsule. Ilyushin survived, but was injured.
by Paul Tsarinsky
Leave-taking ceremony for Soviet cosmonaut Vladimir Komarov, who died in the crash landing on April 26, 1967. The Crash of Soyuz 1
Thanks Sax.
Where did you find that photograph !?!?!?!?!?!?!?
re the crazy Italian fratelli, I posted this last year:
http://www.jamesoberg.com/judica-cordiglia.pdf
and probably will have to post an update (sigh...).
jim O
BTW, thanks for the kind and respectful comments re my work, above. It’s such a relief from in the UFO forums...
Cheers
To be added to the 150 plus member unidentified aerial phenomenon , please freepmail both Quix and Las Vegas Dave
Loved “Red Star In Orbit” and your spots on The History Channel programs.
“...LED display...”
Why should a Fortean Times writer be any more technically savvy than one at the Washington Post or New York Times?
I’ve subscribed to FT for many years and some of what they publish is good, some of it just really weird.
Wow, its an honor to have you around these parts sir!
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Dave: Thanks for resurrecting this thread. I missed it the first time around.
Kevin: May be of interest to your Space Ping List.
And YOU know all this because....
...you're a certified astronaut, right?
I'd say..space cadet, but astronaut? NOT!
Not much left of him was there.
Didn't you watch Apollo 13?
Causes and Mitigation of Radio Frequency (RF) Blackout During Reentry of Reusable Launch Vehicles
Yes. It's been too long, however. And I'll certainly check out your link, though. I'm always open to theories. I laud your credentials and knowledge. There are some new unconventional discoveries coming down the spacial highway, however, so buckle up.
BTW, sorry about the flame. I was in a rare mood that day, and I usually eat Kook Patrol members (not implying you're one of them) at FR for breakfast, being a three-time CE-I & and one-time CE-3 observer.
Uh, except John Glenn was NOT the first American in space. Alan Shepard was. (Although some claim Chuck Yeager went into space in the X-15 long before Shepard's flight.)
The author spins an interesting tale, but he needs to get the basics right.
No problem. Everyone has their bad days in which they blow off steam on this forum. I certainly do, depending on what kind of day I’m having at work.
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