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Why No Gas Lines Yet?
Self | June 19, 2008 | PJ-Comix

Posted on 06/19/2008 5:16:50 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

Just a thought here. Why are there no gas lines like there were in the 1970s? Yeah, the price is going higher but the credit card charges are going higher too which is not good for the gas stations. Gas station profits of not more than about 8 cents per gallon are pretty much eaten up by the credit card charges. I understand that many gas stations have quit pumping gasoline as a result. In fact, I have seen quite a few gas stations that have been closed up recently.

Okay, with fewer gas stations why are there not more gas lines. I have seen a few gas stations where the gasoline is a bit less than average have a lot of cars but nothing like lines down the block.

Just wondering why we have seen no gas lines. Or will that be happening soon?


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To: kempo

I’m seeing price diferentials now of up to 15 cents per gallon. When prices were lower we didn’t see such a wide spread.


21 posted on 06/19/2008 5:56:01 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List ---The BIGGEST on the FR!!!)
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To: PJ-Comix

I’m rationing my own gas.


22 posted on 06/19/2008 6:03:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Voting conservative isn't for the faint of heart.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie
Thats partly true. Nixon fixed the price of domestic oil at something like $3 a barrel. People who owned domestic wells shut them down because it was below market price and we became dependent on foreign oil for our supply. One thing Jimmy Carter did do right was to let domestic oil be sold at market price. Within a few years we were again drilling and pumping heavy in this country and the price stabilized for a long time. That is until congress refused to allow new leases in the gulf and Alaska. So here we are with $4 gas.
23 posted on 06/19/2008 6:03:55 PM PDT by kempo (c)
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To: PJ-Comix
Yes, I see price 10 to 15 cent difference from town to town. If you have a WalMart close by you will usually have lower gas in your area over places who do not have a WalMart or other large retailers.
24 posted on 06/19/2008 6:07:51 PM PDT by kempo (c)
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To: kempo

I see big price differences from block to block. Sometimes I wonder why people pay $4.17 when just a few blocks away it is only $4.03.


25 posted on 06/19/2008 6:20:54 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List ---The BIGGEST on the FR!!!)
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To: kempo

I’m guessing that there will be gas lines at stations where the price differential gets to 20 cents less than nearby stations. People wanting to save money will wait on line. Those wanting to save time will pay more.


26 posted on 06/19/2008 6:23:31 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List ---The BIGGEST on the FR!!!)
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To: PJ-Comix

Isn’t the percentage to the credit card company the same regardless of the amount of the charge, or, do we have factual data that a higher percentage of sales are now credit instead of cash. I’ve been using credit long before the run-up in price.


27 posted on 06/19/2008 6:25:45 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: PJ-Comix

Damned if I know. I guess their time is worth more than the 15 cents a gallon. I’ll wait behind a couple of cars to save 15 cents a gallon. Its not because 15 extra cents a gallon is going to break me. Its just the principle of it.


28 posted on 06/19/2008 6:28:20 PM PDT by kempo (c)
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To: Binghamton_native

Yeah, but here is the deal. If a gas station tries to get 8 cents profit per gallon then at about $4.00 per gallon the profits are pretty much eaten up by the credit card charge of 2% since that would be 8 cents.


29 posted on 06/19/2008 6:29:37 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List ---The BIGGEST on the FR!!!)
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To: kempo

Watch what happens when the differential hits 20 cents or more. Then you will see big lines at gas stations selling the gas at the low end.


30 posted on 06/19/2008 6:31:07 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List ---The BIGGEST on the FR!!!)
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To: kempo
.02/.30 = .06667

.08/4.55 = .01758

The 2nd set of numbers represents a Shell station here in the San Jose area and the 8 cents represents a possible saving by shopping around. However, I know people that are driving a round trip of 10 miles to save the 8 cents. At 20 miles a gallon they use about $ 2.25 to save $ 1.60 on a 20 gallon purchase.
31 posted on 06/19/2008 6:35:33 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: PJ-Comix

The gas line don’t start until price controls are imposed by the government. Right now there are plenty of people willing to pay the price, so although gas prices are high, supply is not lagging demand.

Once price controls are implemented by the government, since the price can no longer rise, shortages will be the inevitable result.


32 posted on 06/19/2008 6:39:37 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: PJ-Comix

I guess I’d like to see their books. Are we all sure that their profit is fixed at 8 cents per gallon as opposed to some percentage markup over their wholesale cost?


33 posted on 06/19/2008 6:39:45 PM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: PJ-Comix

There are no lines because there is no shortage of gas, especially at $4 a gallon. They’ll make all the gas you can buy if you’ll pay $4/gallon for it. There will be even more gas at $5 a gallon. No lines. No worries


34 posted on 06/19/2008 6:43:38 PM PDT by DaGman
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To: PJ-Comix; thackney

IMO there is NO shortage of anything except hedge fund manipulation by NASDAQ sorts ! I remember the even / odd days , the lines , the attendants at stations with 12 ga shotguns and a limit of how much fuel we could get !

I keep my rides fueled up and garaged except when at work . Each vehicle has bed tanks or aux fuel cells and aftermarket OEM tanks that are as large as will fit and function for the vehicle.

The lines are possible as is rationing yet I still personally believe this is not a oil shortage it is speculator’s hedge fund efforts driving the costs .

Just my opinion vs anything based on fact.......:o)

Stay safe !


35 posted on 06/19/2008 6:50:06 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos
So you think speculators just woke up a year or two ago and realized they could grossly manipulate the market? I don't think so.
36 posted on 06/19/2008 7:16:37 PM PDT by kempo (c)
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To: kempo

As a matter of fact the longer people believe speculators are th reason for high gas prices the longer it will take to fix the problem.


37 posted on 06/19/2008 7:20:52 PM PDT by kempo (c)
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To: kempo

I didn’t say you thought so ......I said I think so..........:o)

I listened to Ben Stein talk of this at length and it made more sense to me at the time due the fact there is NO shortage and a above average profit is being made.

Stay safe !


38 posted on 06/19/2008 7:21:24 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

There is no shortage because people are burning less gas. The reason is high prices. In other words the free market is working.


39 posted on 06/19/2008 7:24:56 PM PDT by kempo (c)
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To: kempo

I am very very pro for drilling more wells increasing domestic resources and increasing energy production 100 fold in the CONUS and it’s territorial waters. This problem is not simple it is complex and confusing for even the professionals. Multiple causes with a single problem per se !

But I profess to have no expert solution nor anything less that a SWAG as too the cause. Just .......speculating !

Stay safe !


40 posted on 06/19/2008 7:25:57 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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