Posted on 06/16/2008 9:21:31 PM PDT by JewishRighter
The great celebration that has been going on today in the media over the impending commencement of gay marriages in California has left me fearful for this beloved country. Every time I heard the news or clicked on main news items, there it was: "At five o'clock, Pacific time, the State of California will permit gay marriages, etc..." Each time I saw it or heard it was like the tolling of a bell, which reverberated deep in my heart setting off a slight quiver of fear.
My fear is, in large part, based on my religious beliefs. I am an Orthodox Jew. As are many of my fellow FReepers, I am well aware of the Torah's view of homosexuality. But just in case the liberal police are reading this, let me say outright, that I have no plans for capital punishment for gays, nor do I want to see them harmed or deprived of any civil rights. This is not about them. It's about all of us.
Besides the Torah's prohibition and prescribed punishment regarding (male) homosexuality, commentaries tell us that sexual immorality is especially angering to G-d and that it was the sins of sexual deviancy that brought the Flood in the times of Noah and that brought hellfire upon Sodom.
Again, for all you snoopers, I am not saying that I am hoping for a flood or an upheaval. I am saying that, just as G-d has greatly blessed this country, he may do otherwise. Abraham, in his great kindness toward all mankind, pleaded with G-d to spare Sodom and Gomorrah in the merit of any righteous men (at least 10). Apparently, not finding even these, the fate of the people was sealed. An important teaching of the Rabbis is that, sometimes, even the righteous are swept up in the punishments of the sinners if they have not done enough to bring them to a better path.
Are we doing enough to fight the wholesale surrender of our nations' moral heritage? Speaking for myself, I do a bit of letter writing and always choose candidates based on their positions on moral issues. I would welcome any other suggestions for actions that we can take to protect this wonderful land and its basically good people. I also offer up prayers for the country that she should be led by good leaders and that G-d not withdraw his blessing and protection. G-d Bless America.
“Gay Marriage Makes Me Fear For This Beloved Country (Vanity)”
Yeah it’s a bad thing but with all of the other possible things that could destroy us, this is small potatoes.
Marrige will demand that homosexuals give up there promiscity (yeah, right) or else there will be financial ramifications in the divorce proceedings.
As a previous poster said, marraige now opens the door for companies to slam the lid on partner benefits unless those involved get married....opening the door to further legal ramifications.
There's going to be a lot of regret to go round and in the end.....
as usual, only the lawyers will make out like bandits.
“Yeah its a bad thing but with all of the other possible things that could destroy us, this is small potatoes.”
I can’t really agree with that. Yes, there are many problems and threats out there. But for me, as a religious person who believes as did Washington and Lincoln, that America’s welfare came from divine blessing, all the other problems are nothing, if we lose His protection.
How long before we'll have to hear about people who want to marry their dogs - or cows or whatever?
And when will California judges decide it's OK to marry a horse? They're probably chomping at the bit as we speak... /sarcasm
Although you are kind of kidding, I think we have a ways to go before the term “animal husbandry” comes to be taken literally. In the meantime, what argument is left against polygamy right now?
the namgla (north American man gerbil love association) will be upset with your comment.
Thank you.....I too am sickened by this. And afraid for this country.
“I cant really agree with that. Yes, there are many problems and threats out there. But for me, as a religious person who believes as did Washington and Lincoln, that Americas welfare came from divine blessing, all the other problems are nothing, if we lose His protection.”
A man and woman in a committed loving relationship is the bedrock of all civilizations. If we move away from this we will cease to function as a truly free society. While communism, fascism, socialism, have all been threats to America, libertine beliefs may prove to be its downfall. Because America will corrode from the inside and turn against itself. Many people won’t be able to recognize what is right and wrong, what is natural and what is unnatural. I agree with you, gay marriage and the slaughtering of the unborn are very very important issues.
Like it or not or even believe it or not, God is in charge.
Lest you don't believe it, try wondering why the earth remains in just the right position, as do the rest of the planets, as they rotate around the sun.
Why do they not move off course, reverse course, or the sun move out of position?
Why do we, here on earth, have just the correct blend of oxygen and nitrogen, to continue breating?
Because all have a Master Designer, who has a Master Plan and He has told us, His creation, what he finds abominable.
He has also told us what has happened to those societies who have flaunted our freedom, from Sodom to ancient Greece and Rome.
Thank you. Your thoughts add much: besides divine protection, the breakdown of the family is very closely tied with the larger breakdown of the entire moral fabric.
I agree. I’m just waiting for these libs to appeal the 2nd amendment so a Civil War will ignite.
Gun rights, raising taxes and the demoralization/cuts to our military are on the top of my list.
CA: Limit on Marriage. Constitutional Amendment (California Marriage Protection Act)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2032129/posts
Right, if we don’t understand where are rights come from and who is the author of liberty and freedom, we will lose the ability to reason. It’s already happening. I don’t want to sound alarmist, but it’s a dead - serious issue.
You’re right. With this new development there is hardly any combination of human beings (and possibly other species) that should not be “constitutionally protected”.
God helps the nation that turns to Him. 2nd Chron 7:14-17
And God helps those who help themselves.
The battle is joined in California. Do what you can where you can to make the right things happen.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2032129/posts
“Yeah its a bad thing but with all of the other possible things that could destroy us, this is small potatoes.”
I disagree. This divide is at the very heart of our nation’s social fabric. I ask what it says that the only societies on earth who have accepted gay marriage are so inherently dysfunctional that they are unable to do something so basic as to produce the next generation. Entertaining the very thought of “gay marriage” says something not only perverse about a society, but also something very sick about the way it views family to start with.
We grow up with the expectation that we will have children. We impregnate that into our children. It’s how we raise them. Now, that’s all disappearing. It becomes a matter of, “Well, Johnny, if you marry someone of the opposite sex, then you can have kids. But if you don’t, that’s okay.”
And it’s not okay. Not in a society that wishes to remain self-perpetuating.
It’s just as things happened with unilateral divorce—we were told it wouldn’t affect divorce rates substantially. Yeah, freaking right. The same thing with accepting having children out-of-wedlock.
Now we have millions of kids who grow up without parents or from split homes. And I ask: which is more damaging to our society? That? Or al-Quaida?
I think it’s very clearly the disintegration of the American family, and this only helps perpetuate that.
Right you are. And the further we move away from our moral (Biblical) founding, the closer we are to His mighty judgment. We’ve been protected from those “things” which might have lead to America’s downfall thus far because of our predecessors’ Biblical compass.
Thank you for your wise thoughts. I agree. I am trying to get the word out that we can still vote on this, maybe the Good Lord, in His mercy, will give us one more chance to remedy this in November.
Get out and vote for this in November California!
http://www.ProtectMarriage.com/
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