Posted on 06/16/2008 8:35:11 PM PDT by twntaipan
And to think Microsoft used to be popular with the developer crowd...
Not anymore. A recent report from Evans Data shows fewer than one in 10 software developers writing applications for Windows Vista this year. Eight percent. This is perhaps made even worse by the corresponding data that shows 49 percent of developers writing applications for Windows XP.
Such appreciation for history is not likely to warm the cockles of Microsoft's heart, especially when Linux is getting lots of love from developers (13 percent writing apps for it this year and 15.5 percent in 2009). The Mac? I don't have any equivalent data via Evans Data. But the Mac OS has rocketed by 380 percent as a targeted development platform, Evans Data told Computerworld.
The numbers don't get much better for Vista in 2009: 24 percent (compared with 29 percent for XP). That's a big step up from 8 percent, but is it a sign of momentum to come or just a temporary stopgap while developers wait until Windows 7?
Nor has Microsoft made it easy to develop Vista applications, according to an article in ITJungle.com:
Unfortunately, that improved security posture makes it more difficult for developers to write applications for Vista (read: no more kernel-level access and UAC to worry about), and it also causes compatibility problems with older applications. Ironically, the wave of attacks targeting operating system vulnerabilities has largely passed, and today hackers have moved on to target applications. At the same time, Microsoft has provided iterative improvements in Windows XP security, bolstering its status as "good enough" and further eating into Vista's pie.
Indeed. Microsoft doesn't need to handicap itself on the desktop given its difficulties competing everywhere else. With Linux and the Mac taking ever-increasing shares of the developer pie, Microsoft would do well to shore up developer support for Windows.
Unfortunately for Microsoft, that probably means re-investing in XP and forgetting its "New Coke" moment with Vista.
I never said Vista was not a royal pain in the ass. Most of these problems have workarounds.
No they don't quite a lot of old proprietary business software is intentionally disabled by Vista. If you were running a heating and air company, and your manual J software wouldn't work anymore after getting a supposed operating system upgrade - you would be just as unhappy as a lot of the people driving the big Vista backlash.
Business people don't care if you can still play recent games or not
LOL
I'll give credit where it is due. Mac makes a solid business platform. I usually tell people who ask me what kind of commuter they should buy this: If you are doing to buy a computer from the store, with a name on the side, go get a Mac. If you want to build the latest gaming rig, then lets go look at some hardware on newegg.com
The cynic in me says that the divorce of the PC as the premier gaming platform is a win for the tech world. Why sell one appliance when you can sell two?
bump for read tomorrow.
Who told you that bald-faced one?!
Vista most certainly won't run XP drivers (drivers are software, by the way).
Vista completely broke backwards compatibility with earlier versions of Windows. Try installing an old Quickbooks program onto Vista. Won't happen. Peachtree? Nope.
See XP machines on your Vista network? Not likely...especially not printers.
Microsoft could have had all of the above by simply shipping XP with Vista, and giving the user the option of either dual-booting directly to XP, or running XP in a Vista virtual window.
But instead of doing the above (which would have allowed Vista developers to start coding from scratch instead of being tied to legacy code), Microsoft instead piled massive layers of new code in Server03/XP and called that amalgamation "Vista."
They should have just called it "Train Wreck."
See post #26.
please inform me what you cannot install. everything has worked for me. maybe it was some highend proprietary products?
I’m not saying Vista is Gods gift to the PC. As for drivers, I was not talking about drivers. I was referring to applications. You listed a few there that don’t work. I believe you, I had to install XP on a virtual machine to run Solidworks. I also have a few XP applications that are running just fine, and some that required me to set the “XP application” and “run as admin” to work. As for the XP computers showing up on the network, no problems there. My printer is also a network printer and it works just fine too. As I said before, most of the problems have a work around. It’s a pain, yeah, wouldn’t it be nice if you didn’t need a hack for every little thing you wanted to do. I guess if that was what I was interested in I would get a Mac. Personally I like the challenge.
My Vista laptop has no problem seeing the XP boxes on my network. WTF is up with that? I’m sure they know they need to be plugged in.
Although, Vista is responsible for my gout and low sperm count.
windows firewall
look, most all products made to run on win2k and xp work, hell alot of win95 products work too. xp came out 6 years ago so your software is at least 6 years old, you got your moneys worth out of it, time to up grade, sometimes the upgrade has better features. I am sure there were good programs on a tandy1000 back in the day
this article gives a good discription. I will give a few tips convert xp to ntfs, it should already be but I have seen a few xp installs that were not, ntfs is better IMO and they give you some warnings about converting , I have done this to several pc's, it works. Make sure you have an administrator account on all pc's with the same password or put a user on all with the same password. XP home has a hidden admin log in to it in safe mode chances are the "administrator" user's password is blank, change it. make sure sharing is enable on the folders.
sorry, veni, I thought you said HAS PROBLEMS. I need to read better.
“Personally I like the challenge”
Personally I don’t have the time. You guys get this sorted out and let us non-techie’s know what to do. Thanks.
A fat bloated clone with window dressing up the kazoo. I have to work with Windows for business reasons but I will stay with XP until they pry it from my cold dead motherboard.
>>The update was a mere 196mb.
I suspect that was Service Pack One (SP1) for Vista which came out recently.
Our company of 300 computers stopped buying Vista operating system PCs after our first two we received turned into a nightmare.
Backward compatibility is not “completely broken”. That’s hyperbole. I can come up with many examples of lousy software that runs just fine on Vista. If it’s not working, then it’s generally doing something it shouldn’t be. I didn’t have to replace a single piece of software when I moved my home PCs from XP to Vista. Not a single one. Furthermore, if a piece of hardware didn’t have a Vista driver - like my two Epson printers, or my Canon scanner, or my Magellan GPS - the XP drive worked fine in the interim.
Is that always the case? No. But a least my experience is based on trying it - not emotion and the work of click-pimps who need to publish incendiary commentary to sell banner ads.
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