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Video: Umpire hit by ball. On purpose? Is it the catcher's fault? What's your opinion?
wsbradio.com ^ | 6/5/08

Posted on 06/06/2008 6:31:28 AM PDT by yankeedame

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1 posted on 06/06/2008 6:31:28 AM PDT by yankeedame
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There is absolutely no way that is was not intentional.


2 posted on 06/06/2008 6:34:22 AM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: yankeedame

I would say if it were little league maybe not, but it looked like the catcher was intentionally letting it hit the umpire.


3 posted on 06/06/2008 6:38:24 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: yankeedame

bttt


4 posted on 06/06/2008 6:39:21 AM PDT by petercooper (It's called subprime for a reason.)
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I’m not sure I see what the problem is. When the ump agreed to ref the game, he knows that he can be beamed by the ball. That’s the chance he takes.


5 posted on 06/06/2008 6:40:22 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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"The catcher in the incident, Matt Hill, had been invited to walk on for the Gordon College baseball team. The coach of that team has since rescinded the offer."

Good for the coach.

6 posted on 06/06/2008 6:40:47 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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The catcher in the incident, Matt Hill, had been invited to walk on for the Gordon College baseball team. The coach of that team has since rescinded the offer.

"Son, you're either afraid of the ball, or else you think it's funny to have the umpire get hit by the pitch. Either way, we don't want you on our team."

7 posted on 06/06/2008 6:41:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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...put the school's athletics program on severe warning status.

What's next, double secret probation?
8 posted on 06/06/2008 6:42:24 AM PDT by weef
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(Is there any way the Spurs can use this technique on a certain referee?)


9 posted on 06/06/2008 6:44:46 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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Not sure why he rescinded, let the ball hit the ump on purpose or just being a crappy catcher?


10 posted on 06/06/2008 6:44:56 AM PDT by ThomasThomas
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I was going to say that I'd need to know more about what the catcher said after the game or what possible motivations he might have. It looked possible that he got something in his eye or lost the ball and panicked or something.

Then I saw the following in the comments section. Obviously this guy knows the whole story (and it must be true or the internet wouldn't print it!)

Classless act This was a classless act by a couple of kids who think they are bigger than the game of baseball. From my understanding of the incident from people who were there, these players were upset about the pitcher's brother (shortstop) striking out on a called third strike in the previous inning. This was their way of retaliating against the umpire. It was a blatant act of revenge. When a pitcher and catcher get crossed up, rarely does it ever result in the catcher completely missing the ball.

For those who do not know, this pitch was probably somewhere in the 90 mile per hour range. This pitcher was drafted 15th overall in the draft that occurred yesterday so he is not simply a high school pitcher. He is a "kid" with major league talent and skills.

Kudos to the college that rescinded the catcher's offer. For a college who probably has coaches who have been around the game of baseball their entire lives (and seen pitcher/catcher cross-ups) to so quickly act the way they did should be enough to indicate this act was deliberate.

11 posted on 06/06/2008 6:50:57 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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It looks intentional. There wasn't anything in the story concerning questionable calls or any kind of controversy leading up to it. It would also be helpful to know the game situation. However, the umpire did not appear to be hurt and the fact he's now under a "doctor's care" appears to be a legal ploy. It was nowhere as bad as this (unintentional) recent MLB incident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc2wz4QpnPQ&feature=related

12 posted on 06/06/2008 6:52:08 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline Currently Under Construction)
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"Not sure why he rescinded, let the ball hit the ump on purpose or just being a crappy catcher?"

Did you watch the video at the source? The only worthwhile reason one could have for listening to the catcher's explanation would be to see how good a liar he is.

13 posted on 06/06/2008 7:00:34 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: yankeedame

Intentional without a doubt. The only question is whether the pitcher was in on it.


14 posted on 06/06/2008 7:04:20 AM PDT by kabar
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Try to look at the signal from the catcher prior to the pitch....sure looked intentional to me in the video.


15 posted on 06/06/2008 7:11:22 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: yankeedame

This reminds me of the South Park episode where the boys were trying to lose in a baseball tournament so they could enjoy their summer. The problem was that the other teams were better at losing then they were.


16 posted on 06/06/2008 7:12:50 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (The change Barack Obama will bring is called anarchy.)
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To: yankeedame; SW6906
I've been an umpire (all levels of Little League) for over 15 years and have seen a lot of pitches that the catcher had a hard time with. I've never, ever seen a catcher duck this way.

It was deliberate. Good on the college coach that rescinded his offer to let this delinquent play on his team.

17 posted on 06/06/2008 7:31:02 AM PDT by namsman
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To: dead
For those who do not know, this pitch was probably somewhere in the 90 mile per hour range. This pitcher was drafted 15th overall in the draft that occurred yesterday so he is not simply a high school pitcher. He is a "kid" with major league talent and skills.

Actually the kid who threw the pitch was his younger brother. Ethan was drafted by the Dodgers yesterday. His younger brother Cody was the pitcher in ths game.

18 posted on 06/06/2008 7:33:16 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: caver
I’m not sure I see what the problem is. When the ump agreed to ref the game, he knows that he can be beamed by the ball. That’s the chance he takes.

He didn't agree to be a target. Being accidentally hit is one thing but being intentionally thrown at is another matter all together.

I had to spend two days in the hospital after being hit in the head by a baseball. It is plausible that the umpire is suffering medical issues as a result of being hit. In big league games when a batter is hit cleanly in the head by a fastball, the player is always taken out of the game and put under medical observation as a precaution. Why? Because a baseball can be lethal.

19 posted on 06/06/2008 7:41:41 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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“He didn’t agree to be a target. Being accidentally hit is one thing but being intentionally thrown at is another matter all together.”

I understand what you’re saying. My only point is that the ump takes a chance stepping onto the field.


20 posted on 06/06/2008 7:49:56 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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