Posted on 06/05/2008 11:25:11 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
The Republic of the United States of America is just about finished.
If Obama controls the Oval Office then our Republic will be destroyed from inane socialist policies from within.
If McCain controls the Oval Office then our Republic may also die from within due to his appeasement to Liberals. He MAY fight the good fight oversees, but he has little interest in maintaining our Constitutional Heritage state-side...witness the McCain/Feingold limitiations on 1st Amendment rights. Also, witness McCains position on the Shamnesty Bills he has tried to push through last years against the huge outcry of regular citizens.
Obama believes he has the understanding of our internal difficulties, but has little experience with international problems.
McCain has little understanding of internal problems (as he has admitted), but has the background to deal with the international threats.
We are doomed either way. From within or from without, the US will be facing its biggest challenges since our biginning days.
So what say you? Which political position would you fight for? Or are you even willing to fight? Choose well, because the end is coming, mark these words. And if you care anything about your country, you will have to chose sides.
God bless you, keep you safe, but be prepared to fight for what the Founding Fathers believed to be your inherent rights. Stand by...
Veterans for Constitutional Restoration (VetsCoR).
Just remember there is dark and darker ( and I am not talking about race).
Population replacement, crushing taxation on older taxpayers and savers, crushing financial adjustments as banks tighten lending policies, and a government so incompetent it can’t even graft without getting caught, creating a new New Deal with amnesty attached, along with nationalized health care.
I expect in my lifetime to see Euro-American amd European Diaspora communities throughout the world. It could work out in the end, Jewish Diaspora, Maronite Diaspora, Assyrian Diaspora, Pakistani-Hindi Diaspora, etc has done well in their new homes even as their homelands were overrun by immigrants.
The out-migration from the US, UK, Germany, Netherlands to the four corners of the world will invigorate the economies of far flung remote outposts, and if the timing is right an individual who moves now could be a immigrant community anchor with quite a lot of influence and power in the new communities of expat migrants.
Places as dissimilar as Chennai, India, Chang Mai, Thailand, and Brataslava, Slovakia are seeing growing American communities. The trailblazing has mostly been done already, and the resources to migrate are just a few clicks away.
If Spain’s real estate market continues to crash, I would expect to see a million or more American retirees move to the otherwise empty residential developments built in the last 9 years if the conservatives retake control of Spain’s federal government.
Don’t rely on the government. Live your independence. Do whatever you can to cut the government out of your life. Share what you know with others.
The British aren't going to burn Washington (but maybe they would if we asked nicely or maybe we could try to get the next World Cup finals held there)
The North isn't fighting the South, killing off 20,000+ Americans in an afternoon.
The Japanese Navy isn't threatening to invade the West Coast with the U.S. Pacific fleet sitting at the bottom of Pearl Harbor.
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton
Massachusetts:
John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery
Connecticut:
Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott
New York:
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris
New Jersey:
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark
Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross
Delaware:
Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean
Maryland:
Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia:
George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton
North Carolina:
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn
South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton
Georgia:
Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
I wish I could believe that our nation would turn back and begin to understand what freedom is and what it does for humanity. However, having lived so much of the history which has brought us to this point, I am now resigned to a socialist and then a communist nation. We have heard the phrase which goes something like this..”Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” The oppressive patterns so recognizable in the goals of the governing left in America are so easy to identify. However, education about how our government works is not really taught in our schools anymore. In addition, we have a “celebrity” media, mostly removed from the harsh realities which grip most of us, enamored with it's own power and image as it repeats and repeats the “talking points” pushed by the major news outlets, which are words designed to force acceptance of the unacceptable by the masses. I see no heroes anywhere. The populism, the intimidating loud megaphone which is the media, the hedonistic nature of our society today, and now we know that ageism, sexism and racism do exert lots of influence, ironically by the same people who insisted that anyone practicing such would be punished. Get used to double standards, folks, and remember the laws they make for you, they do not have to live under themselves. Sorry to be so dark and morose, but there is an “elephant in the room” and it represents the threat of oppressive and confiscatory government. Thanks to everyone who posts here because the “voice in the wilderness,” does sometimes have an impact. God bless everyone and do remember to put your faith and trust in the one who is the same, “yesterday, today and forever.”
No, but an America-hater with connections to Islam is about to get his hand on America's nuclear arsenal.
We will survive whomever wins in November.
However, at the endof the day, remember that we have already had two violent revolutions in this country over the issue of the rule of law.
I'm not leaving.
God has dealt with and is dealing with the United States of America....as He has dealt with and is dealing with every nation.
None of what we see happening is a surprise to our Sovereign Lord.
What shall we then do?
All in this country who are called by His Name (by His mercy and grace) MUST seek God’s face, come before Him in humility and repentance for our own sins and for the sins and rebellion of this nation’s people....and turn from OUR wicked ways, pleading for God’s mercy and intervention for this nation.
And as He has promised, He will have mercy and forgiveness and will turn and will heal this land.
God does not delight in the suffering that comes upon peoples and nations - by no means - but would have all turn to Him and be saved - both individually and as nations.
Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.
There is a good possibility that if Obama is elected he will over step his boundaries. The conservative base will be reinvigorated and ready to go. There will also be a recession that will put him on the defense. That recession will take down a lot of MSM papers and other media. We could be back in power by ‘12. Then again we could avid a recession and he might be successful and he will likely have 3 SCOTUS picks.
On the other side McCain will have been stabbed in the back by his media buddies, the 527’s he helped spawn will go out of the way to defeat him and the Hispanics vote for Obama. He may very well figure out which side his bread is buttered on. But the same recession will do us in and we will see a loss of Senate seats in ‘10 and we will probably still be dealing with the slime of the country club controlling our party and not even beginning to compete with the Dem’s. Then again maybe he would succeed though it is hard to see him getting conservative judges confirmed.
>>>>>Places as dissimilar as Chennai, India, Chang Mai, Thailand, and Brataslava, Slovakia are seeing growing American communities.
We bought a house in Vietnam 3-4 years ago for $20K, and the most recent verbal offer was for $110K. It’s a bit of a coin toss since the VN government is still resisting sensible real estate laws, and tough to do without the right contacts (my wife’s family), but I have hopes for the future there. In many ways VN resembles the America of the earlier 20th century. Certainly there’s opportunity there.
If anyone is considering such a move (one I heartily recommend), there is absolutely no substitute for visiting the target region for an extended period of time meaning a few months. There’s just no way to get a sense of things without being “boots on the ground”.
I like all of SE Asia, but I also hear good things about Ecuador (my niece taught there for a year), and others like other places.
Also, I don't think you can posess firearms there.
No matter where one goes, the IRS is changing the way expats are treated. Better familiarize yourself with their rules, you won't be happy.
We’ve survived bad presidents since..., gee, I can hardly think of a good one
We’ll survive McBama too, Chicken Littles
We still have the power to fight to mitigate the damage at the state and local level and can wait him out.
It will take a while to recover from the foreign policy damage he's going to do, but the biggest threat right now seems to be from Iran, and I think Israel will do what's necessary there if we don't.
Domestically, cleaning up the mess is going to require doing what GWB was not willing to - take an adminstrative bulldozer to the beltway.
We are a republic, and the republic will survive if we have the balls to act like one.
You are not alone in your assessment here; and the bigger threat we face, may be just such thinking as this. IMHO. . .of course.
Can we reasonably imagine the luxury of time; if even only, for 'four years'? Think not. . .given what we see of our rapidly changing culture - thanks to it's refashioning by Liberal mentoring; and given the change of cultural expectations - thanks to Liberal RE-education. More thanks to Liberals needed here, of course; for their special committment to our Constitution, they so self-servingly view as a living, breathing- changing document; with adapting qualities, so embedded..
Special mention should be given here as well; to our Liberal Judges - engaged as they are, in making their own 'law' so as to further Leftist Agendas that otherwise would be prohibited by our Constitution or by citizen vote. (Federal Courts; 'the Supremes'. . .what might we have in just four years?)
Given what we know about the 'Utilitarian' MO - ends justifies means - MO of the radical Left - that we experience as the omniscient Totalitarian Collective - with it's 'power lust'; is it reasonable to assume that in four years, we would be so enabled, by these collectivists to successfully, move our Country foreward?
Think the 'CHANGE'(s) that Obama desires to implement; could well have our heads spinning, faster than Linda Blair's as she sat on her bed, in the 'Exorcist'. I don't want to risk four years - a timeline that could possibly stretch into a stolen future from our children; and perhaps, their children as well.
These people never take an 'inch' when they can steal a mile; we know that; and as we speak; they are close, damn close to both winning and stealing, our Country while ' attempting guarantees' that our population will NOT fight back; at least anytime soon.
Think our only hope is to insure; we NEVER give them such an opportunity for 'Power Enhancement'. For sure NOT, entrusting them with the power of America's Presidency; our Congress. . .our Courts; our Defense; our Military. As well, we cannot afford for them to own our Healthcare; our Educations system; our Children. (. . .and most importantly, we cannot allow them further ownership of our Minds; by way of now deadly viral strains of political correctness.)
Not for 'four years'; not for two. We absolutely cannot give any more, than they have already taken; or we have naively given. We must STOP now.
And while, McCain may favor some of these 'changes'; he is not ideologically rooted, as are these lovers of Marx; Chomsky; Alynsky. . .these appeasers of any totalitarian mind-set; including elements of radical Islam. McCain, most importantly, and by contrast, IS available to the 'Gifts of Reason'. All to say, we can more easily alter, change our course; maintain and/or recover, from a McCain Presidency.
If ONLY, for our National Security - and for the 'Grace of our Military' we cannot entertain such an insult as would be, a President Obama, Commander-in-Chief. Not for four years - not ever!
(As to restoring our Military; after four years of Obama; we surely would have a Draft by then; (who would actually join(?) and in a few more years; where would our patriots be grown from - given that ' God/Country allegiance'/Patriotism/Altruism', are now listed in the politically incorrect column under Social misbehaviors (and of the worst kind. If one considers only, the precariousness of our times; then time IS surely a luxury; and we can no longer afford.)
Dream on. Once in place, government programs never go away. Even when cut back, they keep their infrastructure and authority, ready for the next left-wing Tsunami of money. Remember how the Dept of Education and the NEA were going to go away under Ronald Reagan?
Our government today is mostly layer on layer of unsuccessful bureaucracies, created over the last 80 years, that have no more reason to exist than existence itself. Any justification for their power and budget that ever existed is long gone. But noone can do anything about it. The bureaucracy is a constituency unto itself.
Where is Sam Adams when we need him?
This situation is a little bit different.
McCain hasn't campaigned for any Republicans as of yet. So, they have no obligation to pass what he wants. If he wins.
In 2006, Schwartzeneggar didn't campaign for any CA Republicans. So, they do what they can to stop his new found liberal agenda.
McCain = Schwartzeneggar. Stalemate.
What's your plan? Where are you bugging-out to?
“If our country;s done for, the inevitable cause of action is the Civil War”
My feeling exactly. I ain’t going nowhere. This is MY country. If Obama and his collectivist posse try to take over and run my life I will FIGHT.
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