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3 dead in Nevada bar shooting (Reno CCW carrier stops the killing)
Las Vegas Sun ^ | Mon, May 26, 2008 (12:17 a.m.) | The Associated Press

Posted on 05/26/2008 9:02:17 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid

3 dead in Nevada bar shooting

The Associated Press

Mon, May 26, 2008 (12:17 a.m.)

Three men were fatally shot and two other people were injured early Sunday at a bar in the northern Nevada town of Winnemucca, police said, and the shootings may have stemmed from a longstanding feud between several local families.

Winnemucca Police Chief Bob Davidson said a man entered Players Bar and Grill and fatally shot two members of a rival family before he was shot and killed by a patron. All three were pronounced dead at the scene.

The deceased shooter was identified as Ernesto Villagomez, 30, of Winnemucca. The other deceased men were identified as Jose Torres, 20, and his brother, Margarito Torres, 19, both of Winnemucca.

A 34-year-old man and a 22-year-old woman were listed in stable condition with gunshot wounds at the Winnemucca hospital. Their names weren't immediately released.

Sunday's shooting may have been in retaliation for an earlier drive-by shooting involving the families in the town of about 8,000 located 160 miles northeast of Reno, Davidson told Reno's KRNV-TV.

The 48-year-old patron from Reno who killed the shooter was initially taken into custody as a person of interest, but was later released after Humboldt County District Attorney Russell Smith determined the shooting was justifiable homicide.

The patron was in possession of a valid concealed weapons permit issued by the Washoe County Sheriff's office, Davidson said.

While the shootings occurred during the town's annual Runnamucca motorcycle rally, there's no evidence linking them to any rival motorcycle gangs or clubs, Davidson said.

About 300 people were inside the bar at the time.

The case is under investigation.


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Welcome to Nevada! Yes, you can legally carry a gun in a bar here with a permit.
1 posted on 05/26/2008 9:02:18 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: The KG9 Kid

Double Down ping!


2 posted on 05/26/2008 9:04:25 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: The KG9 Kid
You guys are lucky. I have a CCW permit here in Ohio, but it's ridiculous where you can't carry. Forget about any alcohol establishments, even retail, like Kroger.

Wouldn't matter anyway; the anti-gun crowd has convinced most businesses of all sorts to post the red circle-slash over gun signs.

As I told the principal of my son's school, they've just advertised themselves as a free fire zone.

3 posted on 05/26/2008 9:07:59 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

In Texas those signs are worthless. They just mean you can’t have an unlicensed handgun.


4 posted on 05/26/2008 9:17:13 PM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: The KG9 Kid

CT permit isn’t honored there.


5 posted on 05/26/2008 9:19:58 PM PDT by wastedyears (Like a bat outta Hell.)
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To: buccaneer81
You can carry practically anywhere in NV as long as you have a CCW permit that Nevada honors.

Exceptions are airport *buildings*, Federal buildings, any building with a metal detector at all entrances, courthouses, prisons, jails, police stations, and schools/colleges (without authorization).

Everywhere else, you're legal. Private property can post signs prohibiting CC on their premises, but you're only obligated to leave if they ask you to vacate the premises.

6 posted on 05/26/2008 9:20:58 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: wastedyears

Acquire a Utah permit if NV doesn’t recognize CT’s permit.


7 posted on 05/26/2008 9:22:38 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Brucifer; The KG9 Kid
In Texas those signs are worthless. They just mean you can’t have an unlicensed handgun.

You guys are lucky. Here, those signs get you at least one night in jail and a call to your attorney.

8 posted on 05/26/2008 9:58:17 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81
As I told the principal of my son's school, they've just advertised themselves as a free fire zone.

I assume you mean the school has been declared a gun free zone?

9 posted on 05/26/2008 10:13:56 PM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: The KG9 Kid

Here’s another *great* story out of NV.

http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20080524/NEWS/408277369/0/FRONTPAGE


10 posted on 05/26/2008 10:20:43 PM PDT by roscommon
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I assume you mean the school has been declared a gun free zone?

Exactly.

11 posted on 05/26/2008 10:21:32 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81
Those signs sort of help us out. Many places don't know what they have to do to properly exclude those of us with Concealed Handgun Licenses. They stick up one of those snarky signs and think that we can't come and go as we wish.

Or, my alternate theory... they do know that those signs mean nothing, but they are just doing it for the sake of the sheeple who don't know what's going on.

12 posted on 05/26/2008 10:31:47 PM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: Brucifer

Ernesto Torres? Is there anything mentioned (of course not) about their being citizens? Immigration status, plueeez?


13 posted on 05/27/2008 2:25:13 AM PDT by levotb
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To: The KG9 Kid

In Pennsylvania, the only place your CCW is not allowed is airports and schools and that’s a federal law. It used to be courthouses but this was recently shot down (pun intended) by the state supreme court and the courthouses cannot completely ban firearms on their premises.


14 posted on 05/27/2008 5:17:19 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: The KG9 Kid

An excerpt from another report (RGJ):

Villagomez then started walking toward the middle of the bar before suddenly collapsing to the floor. Hayes later found out that Villagomez was shot by a 48-year-old customer from Reno who was carrying a concealed handgun. Authorities declined to release the Reno man’s name, only saying that the man had a valid permit to carry a concealed weapon. The man was released after authorities ruled the death a justifiable homicide.

“He was just some random guy in jeans and a shirt who happened to be there,” Hayes said. “I was just glad that there was somebody there who was able to help us out.”


15 posted on 05/27/2008 6:52:19 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Guns don?t kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: ItsForTheChildren
I assume you mean the school has been declared a gun free zone?

'Gun free zone' = 'shooting gallery for criminals'
16 posted on 05/27/2008 7:13:10 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Travis McGee; Squantos
Get a load of this...

'rival families'....yea....right.

Thank God for an armed citizen.

L

17 posted on 05/27/2008 7:19:24 AM PDT by Lurker (Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR, to get them within throat-cutting range.)
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To: buccaneer81

“As I told the principal of my son’s school, they’ve just advertised themselves as a free fire zone. “

In this age lacking of reason, that is all the principal needs to have the authorities pick you up for threatening to go postal on the school.

Don’t laugh, it could happen.


18 posted on 05/27/2008 7:22:46 AM PDT by Rebelbase (McCain: The Third Bush Term ?)
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To: Lurker; B4Ranch

bttt


19 posted on 05/27/2008 7:46:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: The KG9 Kid; buccaneer81

For clarification that involves concealed carry. You can and I often do open carry in many places in the State. Some cops get excited but it is legal. KG9 I walked into the store in Empire during Burning-man with a 1911 on my hip covered in antelope blood, I wish I had video off all of those drug infested burners looks. A couple of them took exception to the dead antelope on the top of my Tahoe and the Washoe County Sheriff’s just laughed at them and came over to admire the horns. BTW I would not recommend it in Vegas or Reno unless you have a lot of time on your hands. They will hook you up and run checks on you and then release you if you are clean, that could take hours.


20 posted on 05/27/2008 7:56:57 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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