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Posted on 05/19/2008 2:43:34 AM PDT by LuLuLuLu

I really, really need some help here. Long story short, I've lost two old computers in the last few months and now have a box that is running on Linux with Ubuntu and Firefox. As far as I can tell, Firefox does not allow me to just copy and paste the LOLCat pictures... There goes my entertainment!

I have no connectivity problems, but I think I'm showing my age. I 'grew up' with DOS based apps and I can't find anything!

I have printer software that I need to install, and can't find the right way to do it. Cry for me, OK? Or point me in the right direction. A search on Linux timed out.

And if you have any answers, please type slowly so I can understand. FReepMail is fine if you don't want to steal the bandwidth from the real problems of the world.

Thanks!


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1 posted on 05/19/2008 2:43:35 AM PDT by LuLuLuLu
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To: LuLuLuLu

What do you mean when you say that Firefox won’t allow you to copy and paste pictures? If there is a picture on a web page, you should be able to right-click and select Copy or Save As. You can then Paste whatever you copied into a graphics program (like gimp or eog).

You can’t run your Windows printer software on Linux. You have to use the Linux drivers. Click Applications —> System Tools —> Printers. This is called CUPS (Common Unix Printer System). You should be able to setup your printer through CUPS. There are some printers that do not have drivers or have drivers that don’t work very well.


2 posted on 05/19/2008 2:48:59 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: joseph20
If you have an HP printer, you can download from the repositories a driver that work with that printer. I haven't had any issues yet with configuring Linux.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 05/19/2008 4:22:17 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: LuLuLuLu

I’m writing this through Ubuntu 7.10/Firefox. I have no problem copying pictures with Firefox. Simply right click and select ‘Save Image As’.

As for printers, you have to use Linux drivers. Go to System/Administration/Printing and select the New Printer icon at top-left. You’ll have to tell it the make/model # of your printer. Be aware; some printers don’t have Linux drivers.

You can’t install Windows software on Linux. The only way to get Windows applications to run is by running an application such as Wine, Virtual Box, VM Ware or Crossover. But I don’t know whether that would relate to installing a printer. Haven’t tried that...


4 posted on 05/19/2008 5:04:23 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: LuLuLuLu
I 'grew up' with DOS based apps and I can't find anything!

Sorry, I should have responded to this in my first reply. Linux/Ubuntu is a lot different than Windows. The underlying file structure is different, and the way Ubuntu (and other Linux GUI's) present the desktop is different. Frankly, it takes some getting used to, but once familiar, is easy to navigate.

As with anything else, a little time invested in playing around with it will be rewarded.

You state you now have a PC with Linux/Ubuntu installed. Is this a new PC? Is this the only operating system on the PC? If so, you may be able to configure a dual boot situation where Windows can reside on the PC with Linux (you'd have to partition the hard drive, adding a Fat32 or NTFS partition for Windows). Once that's done, Linux will recognize that partition but Windows will not recognize the Linux partition.

Mine is a dual boot configuration. I can use Open Office (on Ubuntu) to run/create Microsoft Office documents and store them on my NTFS partition. I can also run some Windows applications because I have Virtual Box installed.

5 posted on 05/19/2008 5:16:29 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: bcsco
Mine is a dual boot configuration. I can use Open Office (on Ubuntu) to run/create Microsoft Office documents and store them on my NTFS partition. I can also run some Windows applications because I have Virtual Box installed.

Sounds like the configuration I've got now. My hard drive crashed - I was running Windows XP. When I got my notebook back, I did the dual boot thing and mostly use Ubuntu and occasionally boot into Windows XP for a few specific things. I'll have to try Virtual Box to see if I can boot if I can boot into XP even less.

6 posted on 05/19/2008 5:23:27 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff

I’m still new to the Virtual Box situation. My main thing in XP is Quicken. While I’ve gotten Quicken installed in Ubuntu using Crossover, it’s very limited and I gave up using it. I still go to windows for that.

Once concern I have with Virtual Box is resources. I have 1.25 Gb RAM. Just how much will be taken by Virtual Box, and the affect it has on resources remains to be seen. I can upgrade to 2Gb, and may do so. But that will come when I find the time to fool with it further. Right now, well....


7 posted on 05/19/2008 5:37:57 AM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: LuLuLuLu

Fully automatic printer installation

Printers are now automatically configured by merely plugging them in and turning them on. Printer setup cannot get any easier!

*

printer-auto-detection.png

Lexmark Z23 printer

I have an old Lexmark Z23 printer, and it takes a little extra work to get it running.

1.

sudo apt-get install alien libstdc++5
wget -c -P /tmp/ http://www.downloaddelivery.com/srfilecache/CJLZ35LE-CUPS-2.0-1.TAR.GZ
pushd /tmp
tar -xvzf CJLZ35LE-CUPS-2.0-1.TAR.GZ
tail -n +143 lexmarkz35-CUPS-2.0-1.gz.sh > install.tar.gz
tar -xvzf install.tar.gz
sudo alien —to-deb *.rpm
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
sudo ldconfig
popd
cd /usr/share/cups/model
sudo gunzip Lexmark-Z35-lxz35cj-cups.ppd.gz
sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart

2.

gksudo /usr/bin/system-config-printer

and then click the “New Printer” button.
3. If the printer is connected directly to the computer via USB, select “Lexmark Z23-33 USB #n” and click “Forward”.
4. If the printer is to be accessed via the network, select “Other”, and enter

http://$SERVER:631/printers/$PRINTER

where $SERVER is the server URL or IP address and $PRINTER is the printer name on the server, and then click “Forward”. You can find the names of the shared printer on a server by visiting the following URL in your web browser:

http://$SERVER:631/printers

where $SERVER is the server URL or IP address.
5. Select the “Provide PPD File” radio button, and click the button initially labeled “None”, and navigate to /usr/share/cups/model and choose the file named Lexmark-Z35-lxz35cj-cups.ppd.

HP printers
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-583143.html

Epson printers
http://search.earthlink.net/search?q=install+epson+printer+gutsy&area=earthlink-ws&channel=broadband&FD=0&;


8 posted on 05/19/2008 5:43:06 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: LuLuLuLu

Fully automatic printer installation

Printers are now automatically configured by merely plugging them in and turning them on. Printer setup cannot get any easier!

*

printer-auto-detection.png

Lexmark Z23 printer

I have an old Lexmark Z23 printer, and it takes a little extra work to get it running.

1.

sudo apt-get install alien libstdc++5
wget -c -P /tmp/ http://www.downloaddelivery.com/srfilecache/CJLZ35LE-CUPS-2.0-1.TAR.GZ
pushd /tmp
tar -xvzf CJLZ35LE-CUPS-2.0-1.TAR.GZ
tail -n +143 lexmarkz35-CUPS-2.0-1.gz.sh > install.tar.gz
tar -xvzf install.tar.gz
sudo alien —to-deb *.rpm
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
sudo ldconfig
popd
cd /usr/share/cups/model
sudo gunzip Lexmark-Z35-lxz35cj-cups.ppd.gz
sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart

2.

gksudo /usr/bin/system-config-printer

and then click the “New Printer” button.
3. If the printer is connected directly to the computer via USB, select “Lexmark Z23-33 USB #n” and click “Forward”.
4. If the printer is to be accessed via the network, select “Other”, and enter

http://$SERVER:631/printers/$PRINTER

where $SERVER is the server URL or IP address and $PRINTER is the printer name on the server, and then click “Forward”. You can find the names of the shared printer on a server by visiting the following URL in your web browser:

http://$SERVER:631/printers

where $SERVER is the server URL or IP address.
5. Select the “Provide PPD File” radio button, and click the button initially labeled “None”, and navigate to /usr/share/cups/model and choose the file named Lexmark-Z35-lxz35cj-cups.ppd.

HP printers
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-583143.html

Epson printers
http://search.earthlink.net/search?q=install+epson+printer+gutsy&area=earthlink-ws&channel=broadband&FD=0&;;


9 posted on 05/19/2008 5:43:59 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: LuLuLuLu

sorry for double post


10 posted on 05/19/2008 5:45:10 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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11 posted on 05/19/2008 8:45:52 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: bcsco
The underlying file structure is different...

Talk about understatement.

12 posted on 05/19/2008 1:40:58 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (During the Middle Ages, rats spread bubonic plague. Today, Rats spread the socialist plague.)
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Talk about understatement.

Hah! And I kept my feelings about Terminal and Sudo commands to myself. Boy, am I restrained.

13 posted on 05/19/2008 3:47:15 PM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: bcsco
Its entirely likely that you don't even need the Terminal an sudo commands for a printer install. What printer are you using? If you plugged it in it may already be installed (but not the Default printer) Go to System>Administration>Printing. Is it there under Local Printers? If so, click it and choose Make Default. You can configure it from here.

The file structure is definitely different, and is where your learning curve will be highest, but it makes sense pretty quickly once you read a little about it.

14 posted on 05/19/2008 4:38:34 PM PDT by MichiganMan (So you bought that big vehicle and now want to whine about how much it costs to fill it? Seriously?)
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To: MichiganMan

I’m not having any printer problems. I was simply remarking on my distaste for Terminal and Sudo commands. It’s like regressing to DOS all over again.

If other new Linux users are like me, it’s a big drawback.


15 posted on 05/19/2008 5:09:08 PM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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To: ShadowAce; LuLuLuLu

Well,...now it is Wednesday...so what happened?


16 posted on 05/21/2008 11:05:47 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I still can’t do anything that has been suggested.

I did the Applications —> Sys Tools >> Printers and the system did not find my printer.

I can do a “Save As” on pictures (goes to my desktop), but I don’t have a ‘Copy’ option when I right click on a picture.

I thank you all for the suggestions; obviously, I’m doing SOMETHING wrong, and am seriously considering going all old fashioned and forgetting computers.


17 posted on 05/21/2008 12:06:48 PM PDT by LuLuLuLu
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To: LuLuLuLu

What model is the printer?


18 posted on 05/21/2008 12:14:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

HP DeskJet 712C

(Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. At the same time I’m struggling with tech problems, we’re renovating our kitchen. I truly appreciate our ancestors more than I ever had!)

Thank you very much for your interest and your help.


19 posted on 05/22/2008 5:23:56 AM PDT by LuLuLuLu
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To: LuLuLuLu
Doing some looking around...Ubuntu Forums has this...bit of a long read,...could be useful...HP Printers are pretty well supported by many recent Linux Distros.:

HOWTO: Install HP Printers for Beginners

I have never had to do anything with CUPS...wouldn't know how to.

Guess I should also ask which Ubuntu Level are you running...?

20 posted on 05/22/2008 9:30:53 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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