Posted on 05/12/2008 12:49:46 AM PDT by OKIEDOC
FReepers, what do you think about requesting Cal Thomas or someone like him to address the "Gutter Language" now infesting much of our political discourse?
We, meaning others and myself have grudgingly been forced to know about vulgar meanings of words that before now had no use in our everyday conversations.
Last week my nine-year-old third grade daughter came home and asked me what Mack Daddy meant.
I asked her where she heard the word and she stated that "the other night on television news a man called someone a Mack Daddy".
I told her the man was probably talking about a dad who eats Big Mac's with his children.
A few weeks ago, Sean Hannity of Fox News had on a black preacher who used the words "Mack Daddy" in one of his sermons.
Curious as to what a Mack Daddy might be I went on the internet and found a black slang dictionary.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/browse.php?character=M&page=9
Here are a couple of descriptions for the slang term "Mack Daddy'";
("Mac Daddy" or Mack Daddy, is a term used to describe a man with an unusual power over women, and is derived from the French and later Louisiana Creole patois term "maqereau", which means "pimp". Adding "daddy" makes it mean "top pimp". The '70's black-exploitation movie "The Mack", a dramatization of the life of a street pimp, furthered the popularity of the term in urban America.)
And
(Can be defined as the father/god/master of owning b*tches. A Mac daddy is such a person as using woman as his slaves. He uses money drugs and fear to control his b*tches. And uses charm,wit and a large amount of cash to keep his hoes hooked to his muthaf*cking nature.)
As you can see, neither description is a respectful explanation for another human being much less one for a former president or presidential candidate wannabe.
I do not want my eight and nine-year-old children learning about such things as "Mack Daddies" until they are old enough to understand that those of a lower socioeconomic standing in our society speak such language out of ignorance or arrogance.
Yet the far left press and many such race baiting and enabling elitists commentators found on MSNBC, CNN, PBS and other liberal bastions see the use of slang language as further breaking down the barriers' between the races.
Mack Daddy's seems to be the language of use by the current elitist's liberal political campaign and is slowly dragging American society down without an utterance of opposition from conservatives.
Personally, I do not want to learn Black Slang so that I can communicate during the forth-coming political campaign, nor God forbid the possibility of four dangerously long years.
I asked her where she heard the word and she stated that "the other night on television news a man called someone a Mack Daddy".
Every fiber of my being calls out that this is phony, but hey, what do the fibers of my being know?
Well, you know the original meanings of rock ‘n roll, jazz, jukebox, etc.
American language is fluid — always changing.
“I do not want my eight and nine-year-old children learning about such things as “Mack Daddies” until they are old enough to understand that those of a lower socioeconomic standing in our society speak such language out of ignorance”
Why should they EVER have to understand it?? It’s not worthy of them. There is no redeeming or uplifting reason to have to learn, much less adopt, such terminology or ideology. This is beyond the “dumbing down” of our society and country, it’s the decaying of it.
Comment:
Please by all means, eat your fiber so your bowels will move more smoothly.
You have a right to think what ever you want.
You can intimate that I have lied if it suits your purposes.
Some people do not see the necessity of using or enhancing black slang in a united America.
I was aware when posting this piece that politically correct thinking suck-ups to the far left extreme race baiter's and enablers of America would fall all over themselves trying to flame any part of what was written.
It was Rev. Manning, of the Atlah church in Harlem. He is very anti-Obama, and I did see him on Hannity & Colmes a few weeks ago. Here’s the “mack daddy” reference:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU
(Careful - language is offensive).
Or those f#@$@ing sons of #@$#@ at Kos and DU.
(Oops, I think I just contributed to the problem.)
I had forgotten about the fruitcakes over at DU and Kos.
American language is fluid — always changing.
Courtesy Comment:
Well actually I did not know the real meanings or where they originated for sure but looked them up.
I knew that they originated out of the black community.
Not all black slang of yesterday had the same inference to the depravity as used by todays black slang.
However, I do remember my principal in grade school telling us that rock and roll would be the down fall of America.
The jury's still out but since those days in America we have morally sunk to new lows with 43 million aborted/murdered on demand.
From Wikipedia;
The term “juke box” came into use in the United States in the 1930s, derived either from African-American slang “jook” meaning “dance” or from a name given to it by critics who said it would encourage criminal behavior, this came from the fake family name Juke.
Jazz
Jazz is an American musical art form which originated around the beginning of the 20th century in African American communities in the Southern United States from a confluence of African and European music traditions. The style's West African pedigree is evident in its use of blue notes, call-and-response, improvisation, polyrhythms, syncopation, and the swung note of ragtime.[1]
From its early development until the present, jazz has also incorporated music from 19th and 20th century American popular music, which is based on European music traditions.[2] The word jazz began as a West Coast slang term of uncertain derivation and was first used to refer to music in Chicago in about 1915; for the origin and history, see Jazz (word).
Rock and Roll
The immediate origins of rock and roll lie in the late 1940s and early 1950s through a mixing together of various popular musical genres of the time. These included gospel, folk music, and the blues - particularly the electric forms being developed in Memphis, Chicago, New Orleans, Texas, California, and elsewhere - piano-based boogie woogie, and jump blues, which were collectively becoming known as rhythm and blues. Also in the melting pot creating a new musical form were country and western music (including Western swing and influences from traditional Appalachian folk music), jazz, and gospel music.
Yoweee! I love it!
Well, I wasn’t thinking that you LIED, exactly. Just that maybe you massaged events a little bit. People have different standards, you know?
My specific problem is with your account that your daughter raised this question so long after the fact. In my own experience, both as a child, and as a parent, such questions would arise “on the spot”, but never after the fact. Hence, with the fibers.
And, I might add, that these sorts of anecdotal formulas are notoriously unreliable - they’re a “red flag”. I mean, Hillary Clinton isn’t the only one, you know?
None of this has anything to do with politically correct thinking suck-ups or far left extreme race baiters, as far as I can tell.
The amplified electric guitar (developed by Les Paul, whose music I loved) turned every lamebrained pothead into a "musician" who didn't know music. Rock and roll was the end of the American Songbook and the end of the beauty of melody and harmony that enriched our lives. "Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll" should be on our country's epitaph, if it is ever written.
My specific problem is with your account that your daughter raised this question so long after the fact. In my own experience, both as a child, and as a parent, such questions would arise “on the spot”, but never after the fact. Hence, with the fibers.
And, I might add, that these sorts of anecdotal formulas are notoriously unreliable - they’re a “red flag”. I mean, Hillary Clinton isn’t the only one, you know?
None of this has anything to do with politically correct thinking suck-ups or far left extreme race baiters, as far as I can tell.
Courtesy Comment:
I can assure you that she did ask and there was some prior discussion in her class about the use of black slang.
Our town is is predominantly Hispanic with lots of illegals and the school ratio is 88 percent Hispanic, 8 percent white and 2 percent black students.
By the way my daughter is extremely intelligent and I hope she grows up to be a physician like her mother.
That had to be back in the middle 1950’s.
I believe what you say here, whether others do or not. The bastardization of the English languaage is depressing to me. And it makes me mad. Words mean things. We do not need to define new terms just because a certain class of people do not want to go along with the mainstream. If they dislike it so much here, then there are many more countries around the world to which they can move. The media once again force this stuff on us.
caver wrote:
I believe what you say here, whether others do or not. The bastardization of the English languaage is depressing to me. And it makes me mad. Words mean things. We do not need to define new terms just because a certain class of people do not want to go along with the mainstream. If they dislike it so much here, then there are many more countries around the world to which they can move. The media once again force this stuff on us.
Courtesy Reply:
Thank you for your kind response.
Kriss Kross
It's already gone waaaay past the eight year old kids of America, sorry to say.
The adoption of getto slang has been going on for quite a while, but like everything else it seems, there is an ongoing coarsening of language (and behavior) at every level.
I’m not sure what can be done about it on a societal level, but as you are aware, you need to be a more positive influence in your daughter’s life than popular “culture” is a negative.
“Sheesh, six and seven year old kids were already SINGING about “MacDaddy” and such ghetto garbage 10 years ago or more, and raking in millions as national USA chart hip-hop stars.”
Hey, I’ve known the term for over 25 years. Like styrofoam in a landfill, guess some garbage just won’t go away.
Both “jazz” and “rock and roll” are sexual in origin. So much of American pop culture, including slang, comes from criminal enterprises. That would include carney slang that has made its way into popular language as well as NASCAR.
For a real shocker check out some cockney rhyming slang. It’s positively filthy.
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