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Coal Stove
Vanity | 3/3/08 | Chode

Posted on 05/03/2008 4:09:21 PM PDT by Chode

i'm buying a coal stove to heat a 600sqft house... need input.

thx.

Chode


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To: #1CTYankee
Image hosted by Photobucket.com it's compressed saw dust or something?

also how bout creosote???

21 posted on 05/03/2008 4:59:08 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Chode

Glad to help. Anthracite coal burns better than the softer coal with less smoke.


22 posted on 05/03/2008 5:17:00 PM PDT by Redcitizen (What we need is a Grand Army of the Republic.)
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To: Redcitizen

Dad said gramps used to buy something called canel coal “back in the day” and was kind of pricey but burned a long time or something.

To the OP question be sure to look up Lehmans catalog, they have a website and all kinds of info on that type of thing.


23 posted on 05/03/2008 5:27:50 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Chode

http://www.vogelzang.com/sr57e.htm


24 posted on 05/03/2008 5:42:16 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Chode
"also how bout creosote???"

Almost none, clean the pipe and stove once a year. Firebox ever couple days (5 minutes tops) ash bin once a month (or less)

We've had ours 7 years now.

http://www.quadrafire.com/Products/Pellet_Burning/Pellet_Model.asp?f=santa-fe

Our unit is bigger since we heat almost 2,000 sq ft. $660.00 a year, a bag lasts us 18 hrs on the coldest of days. You should be able to get away with a ton rather than the 3 tons we use.

25 posted on 05/03/2008 5:50:45 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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26 posted on 05/03/2008 5:54:18 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid,doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you..our hopes were dashed by CINOs :)
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To: Chode

Be prepaired for all that black ash and soot that runs down your roof and onto your facia board. The stack will turn black as well as anything around.

Blacksmith coal which is larger in chunks has lots of clinkers in it. Then, when you fire, it sometimes backfires which results in some of that nice black smoke venting into your house.

It is cheap, burns hot and long, and is extremely dirty. Coal needs lots of air to burn.


27 posted on 05/03/2008 6:17:39 PM PDT by crz
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To: Chode
" it's compressed saw dust or something?

It is, compressed and kiln dried to a 7% moisture content. The wood is usually leftover from furniture manufactures.

28 posted on 05/03/2008 6:23:10 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Chode

http://www.quadrafire.com/Dealer_Locator/U.S._and_Canadian_Dealers.asp


29 posted on 05/03/2008 6:25:24 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Chode
Where to begin?

First, talk to your coal broker. Coal should be priced by the BTUs, so ask about the BTUs per pound, combustion temperature, ash content, ash fusion temperature, washed or not, and moisture content. An ash fusion temperature above the combustion temperature leaves ash, while the other case leaves clinkers. A coal fired utility might like a high ash fusion temperature - so they can blow the ash out of the boiler - but you might prefer to deal with clinkers and minimize the fly ash. Also, there are multiple sizes to deal with: mine run, steam, stoker, nut, or lump, to name a few. Steam or mine run would likely freeze in the winter from the moisture content. For handling with a Mexican Backhoe, stoker or nut would be your choice. Stoker, sized from about 3/8" to 5/8", is designed to feed via an auger (run by an electric motor) from a bunker into the stove. For your needs, that is probably overkill, but you may find a Stoker-matic free for the taking somewhere. Lump, say from baseball to basketball size, lends itself to hand picking, but is easy to load in some stoves. From the same seam, a ton of mine run would have more ash and moisture, and consequently less BTUs, than a ton of washed nut coal.

Locally, a couple thousand miles from upstate NY, I can find coal varying from about 10.5k BTU to over 12k BTU per pound. The temperatures the higher BTU coal reach make anything but cast iron go limp. Unless you can ensure your supply will remain consistent "forever" you should only consider cast iron for the stove and the grate. If you plan to use the stove with wood for extended periods talk to somebody about how to address the stove pipe installation. Most coal fires are started on top of a wood fire and the higher temperature of the coal takes care of the creosote precipitating out of the cooler wood smoke. How you tinker with your damper also can impact creosote formation. If you burn wood regularly for a few months and then switch to coal the resulting high temperatures of the exhaust could ignite the built-up creosote. This would not be good.

30 posted on 05/03/2008 6:36:45 PM PDT by kitchen (Any day without a fair tax thread is a good day.)
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To: Chode
THis would be more efficient (though a bit pricier).

"Masonry" heaters

31 posted on 05/03/2008 6:37:50 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: Chode

Been there did that ......albeit not during the depression era.......:o)


32 posted on 05/03/2008 6:57:18 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Chode

Suggestions? Move to Tampa.


33 posted on 05/03/2008 7:20:43 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Chode

Thanks you. I do the same and even as I’m typing there is a load of good Pennsylvania anthracite burning in my Massachusetts home. It’s also good to know that when the power goes out in the area I won’t be without long burning heat.


34 posted on 05/03/2008 7:40:36 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: nuconvert

Where would this be?


35 posted on 05/03/2008 7:41:44 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: pabianice; nuconvert; gorush; t1b8zs; linn37; Paladin2; Squantos; mdittmar; #1CTYankee; ...
Image hosted by Photobucket.com thx again all...
36 posted on 05/03/2008 7:41:52 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: MSF BU

West, young man


37 posted on 05/03/2008 8:05:32 PM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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To: Chode
i'm buying a coal stove to heat a 600sqft house... need input.

You need a bigger house.

Glad I could be of service.

-ccm

38 posted on 05/03/2008 8:05:38 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Chode
Did someone say coal?

Here's a coal fired oven that can only be used to bake the greatness known as Lombardi's pizza (Little Italy district, New York City):


39 posted on 05/03/2008 11:36:01 PM PDT by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: t1b8zs

if you will need electric to operate the thing

Amen. Just finished what is we hope the last blizzard of the spring, and didn’t lose power for more than a few seconds, but many lost power for extended periods, and though they had gas furnaces, the fan runs on electricity, so they were without heat. My wood stove is the backup heat source. Don’t use it much because we both work away from home.


40 posted on 05/03/2008 11:44:41 PM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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