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1 posted on 04/30/2008 6:00:07 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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I have seen it and lived it. It is a good series.


2 posted on 04/30/2008 6:02:26 AM PDT by navygal (retired navy and proud of it.)
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I’ve been watching.
There’s been some discussion over here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2004564/posts


3 posted on 04/30/2008 6:04:51 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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I’ve been watching- it’s pretty good. But you have to have your PBS filters on. It seems the slant is that most of the sailors are ignorant hicks who don’t know why they are there and are “just doing their job”. Some of the chick sailors are annoying the heck out of me with their clueless whining.
I come from a Navy family and this young crop of swabbies portrayed in this series are different from the Navy I knew.


4 posted on 04/30/2008 6:09:09 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly
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To: paterfamilias

I’ve seen it too.

Overall it is a good series.

One of negatives I saw was they seem to highlight that a lot of enlisted personnel were on the lower side of society.

Some are from broken homes with abuse, drugs, etc. They push the myth that they are in the Navy because there were no jobs available where they came from. I’m sure that the case in some circumstances but they leave the viewer with the impression that it is the case with most enlisted personnel.

It’s worth watching.


5 posted on 04/30/2008 6:10:45 AM PDT by JBR34
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I watched one episode and thought it was very good.

One scene that made my jaw drop was the film of the FA-18 Hornet snapping the capture wire and going off the end of the deck. The pilot had 1/2 a second to react and ejected.

What made my jaw drop was the Yellow Shirt who had about a 1/2 second more and the where-with-all to realize what happened and jumped to avoid the recoiling capture wire. Not once...BUT TWICE! That is some serious focus.

Seven others weren't so lucky and were seriously injured by the wire.

6 posted on 04/30/2008 6:12:41 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (The secret of Life is letting go. The secret of Love is letting it show.)
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I lived it...I have no desire to watch it on tv, as I doubt they show what it is really like for lower enlisted.


12 posted on 04/30/2008 6:28:13 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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I tried to watch it last night, but the Stars and Sharks were playing last night. That took most of my attention. But what I did see of Carrier was very good.


13 posted on 04/30/2008 6:29:18 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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In pieces, yes. The Reagan navy was a better navy; what you see now is the legacy of Pat Schroeder and Bill Clinton. Thankfully GEN Krulak had none of it for his Marine Corps.


16 posted on 04/30/2008 6:33:24 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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On the guy off of the Prinston, NO.
I understand the program is about the carrier and its personnel. But that boat does not run by itself. Very little mention of the support ships.
I retired from MSC-PAC a few years ago and have played with those big boys more then a few times.
I don’t remember a carries being the Persian Gulf, not enough water depth, only one way in/out. All of the big boys stayed in the Arabian Sea. Big boys=carriers,AOE supply ships, cruisers.
Other wise the program is good for those folks that have no idea as to what goes on in those ships.

just my thoughts


20 posted on 04/30/2008 6:37:00 AM PDT by abseaman (The future is just your imagination reincarnaterd.)
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I have been enjoying this series a great deal. How about you?

I'm watching as much as I can. My job in a carrier-based helicopter squadron requires me to be at work too early in the morning to stay up until 11:00pm watching a show about life on an aircraft carrier. I've been able to see about 2/3 of it so far.

At any rate, I've lived the life having completed two gulf deployments and from what I've seen, this program pretty much nails it, the good and the bad. I plan on buying the series so I can watch it in its entirety.

I'll tell you what I really LOVE about the show. The soundtrack!

24 posted on 04/30/2008 6:42:51 AM PDT by Drew68
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Have not been watching, my folks have been enjoying it. Through a combination of circumstances I was lucky enough to get a tour of the John C. Stennis while it was docked in San Diego. Small group, 6-7 people. Enjoyed it thoroughly.


28 posted on 04/30/2008 6:47:52 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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I couldn’t watch it. Too much focus on “wrong war, dont know what we are here for, bored , bored, bored, etc etc”

just another low level slam/undermining of the US military by PBS

this time in a more stealth mode


30 posted on 04/30/2008 6:50:49 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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I’ve been watching it and it is a very good series. I don’t like the heavy doses of liberal propaganda in it though. Homosexuality is emphasized. Women sailors are shown whining and complaining a lot. The Mission to Iraq is questioned. The sailors are often portrayed as ignorant misfits and losers. But despite this, the stories of teamwork and achievement and the profiles of the individuals are excellent.


35 posted on 04/30/2008 6:59:15 AM PDT by detective
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FUNGUS.

That was a new one for both me and my wife. We both laughed too hard at that one. She did 13 on the Acadia. Ours was a Navy family. I was not allowed to serve, unfortunately, but I knew all the ships and the slang.

41 posted on 04/30/2008 7:10:00 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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USS Kitty Hawk bump


50 posted on 04/30/2008 8:16:42 AM PDT by GitmoSailor
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I can’t figure out how they managed to get every person they talk to to get screwed up. The pilot whose wife told him on camera that she was pregnenat, then miscarried, The guy on the command track who manages to screw up his career by sleeping with an enlisted female who’s also a focus of the show, the racist kid who gets kicked out.

They must have filmed far more people who were succeeding like the girls who got promoted to Yeoman, and then edited many of their comments out in favor of the failures.

It’s a good show, but the bias is getting sickening.


51 posted on 04/30/2008 8:40:01 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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I find this series fascinating. I am impressed with the kind of skills some of the young kids have and how much responsibility they have. I was shocked at the sex incident, especially since that guy was the SAVY that night. I mean, what in the world was he thinking? I don’t get the pregnant girlfriend who won’t email, and who seems to have nothing to say to her boyfriend on the phone. What’s up with her? I felt sad about the pilot and his wife losing the baby. And the lost sailor was so tragic. We emailed a sailor on a carrier for a couple of months, and this helps us understand what his life was like.


56 posted on 04/30/2008 1:42:06 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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They sure focused on some negatives, one episode focused on a sailor accused of raping another, another episode focusing on a alcoholic, racist sailor who got cashiered.
60 posted on 04/30/2008 2:33:51 PM PDT by mware (mware...killer of threads.)
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I KNEW somebody had to ask this qwexion. I've beem wondering when somebody would raise the issue. I heard tell that the "libs" are all in a tizzy because some Dems showed up on Fox. What a bunch of nonsense.

That would or could never happen in the conservative "world" just because of conservative principles. EVERYBODY on this board KNOWS that I'm a jackass. Anywasys, just WHAT is your point

I've watched the first three 2-hr episodes when instead I should've been studying for my "quals".

I've found a new respect, lets polish the patina off the copper or silver, and lets let it shine!

Quite frankly I believe the show was done with respect to the service that service members provided. I believe that the progrmm offered sufficient difference of opionion given the flux that our political system is in. The program attempted to establish the "righteousness" of U.S. military action and was inconclusive. One thing certain is that command authority had't allowed Navy bombs to be dropped. That wss an issue of major contention presented. I'm not certain about the details and it IS PBS so I don't konw enough to make an educated stupid concerning that.

The repeated shots of the "boat" by the air-camera whree nice. That especially so when the sea began to heave. Whoever put this thing together knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

I KNOW for a fact that I'd puke. I'm astonished at the modern warship larder.

As far as being initiated into the "Court of King Neptune", I'm ambivialnt concerning the regulations imposeed upon the ceremonies. I have a certificate of something of that nature from when I was a "baby"/toddler (I have no recollection of that event); it was back in the mid 1960's though.

Frankly, I thought the program so far to be awesome (considering it to be a PBS production).

I especially enjoyed how the program editors juxtapostioned contrasting viewpoints against each other. The bottem line is that these individuals are kicking ass. The portraylal of sense of comaraderie is exquisite. What the program showed is what I remember.

[You in the Air Force?] (sic?) You'd have to marry another man.

Its not possible; you know your parents." I've been slack jawed watching the program so far. I have to see the program tonight to see if its all been a waste of time; they're home now.

Two episodes that I truly enjoyed was the "Captains Mast" and the CO getting briefed on rescue operations.

It comes back to it again and again: wiley ol' grizled vetrans.

I was stunned to see the Capt. Mast from both sides; firstly because I initiated Capt. Mast during "inter-collegiate" tech-school.

What the program drove home to me wss a presentation on a "microcosm" scale, "we" are all dependent upon each other. That is true from top to bottem, bottem to top and vice versa.

That aircraft carrier IS the United States of America; sometimes the CO is going to have to get off the boat and deal with the natives.

The question remains if the "CO" is that of the U.S.A. (or the "boat") and is it explicit or conveniant.

74 posted on 05/02/2008 1:16:48 AM PDT by raygun (24.14% of the Voting Age Population elected Slick (The Cigar) Willey to a second term.)
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