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Mac vs. PC: The Ultimate Lab Test for New Desktops & Laptops
Popular Mechanics ^ | May 2008 | By Glenn Derene

Posted on 04/16/2008 2:50:20 AM PDT by Swordmaker

This computer rivalry has been elevated to a cultural divide on par with Pepsi versus Coke. Taking it beyond personal taste, PM crunches the numbers—with some surprising results (and detailed benchmark scores).

We all know the stereotypes. Apple’s popular commercials have painted the picture in stark terms: There are two types of people, Mac people and PC people. And if the marketing is to be believed, the former is a hip, sport-coat-and-sneakers- wearing type of guy who uses his computer for video chatting, music mash-ups and other cool, creative pursuits that starchy, business-suited PC users could never really appreciate unless they tried them on the slick Apple interface. Then again, Windows PC enthusiasts probably think that Mac guy is a smug slacker with an overpriced toy that can’t do any serious computing anyway. Funny thing is, both stereotypes are wrong. With a 7.5 percent market share, Macs are no longer just the computer choice of artists and unemployed writers. (Apple is, in fact, the fourth largest computer manufacturer in the world.) And now, more than ever, the guts of both platforms are remarkably similar. Both types of machines use Intel proc­essors (although some PCs can be configured with processors from AMD). Both buy memory, hard drives and graphics cards from the same small pool of suppliers. The underlying operating systems have distinctly different flavors, but in terms of functionality, Microsoft Windows Vista and Mac OS X Leopard have surprisingly similar built-in multimedia, Internet and productivity applications.

Yet what makes the platforms feel so dissimilar is their approaches to these applications. Internet Explorer versus Safari, Windows Media Center versus Front Row, Photo Gallery versus iPhoto, Backup and Restore Center versus Time Machine—these system components from Microsoft and Apple are designed to accomplish essentially the same goals. To users, however, the position and movement of the virtual knobs and levers make all the difference.

These things are largely matters of preference and style, but you can still make a reasonable attempt to quantify them, and we did. We tested two all-in-one desktops and two laptops—one Mac and one PC per category—and assembled a panel of testers with a range of experience and preference that ran the gamut from expert users to my wife’s stepfather, who, by his own account, had never actually turned on a computer. Our testers were asked to set up the computers right out of the box and explore the machines through everyday tasks such as Web surfing, document creation, uploading photos, downloading Adobe Acrobat files and playing music and movies through Media Center and Front Row (the entertainment software suites integrated into Vista and Leopard, respectively). Our testers were instructed to divorce themselves as much as possible from their previous technological preferences and rate their experiences with each computer’s software and hardware.

Usability surveys are like taste tests—a useful look at the subjective appeal of a device. (Is it fun? Is it easy? Would I be happy to live with this thing?) But beneath their packaging, computers are data-crunching machines that can be run like racehorses. So the second component of our test regimen was about pure performance.

Our computers were closely matched, but in the interest of full disclosure, we’ll spit out the caveats: The Gateway One PC had a processor that runs 400 MHz slower than its iMac competitor (not a heck of a difference in this age of dual-core chips), but it also had two extra gigabytes of DDR2 memory. In the laptop category, our Asus M51 had a 2.2 GHz processor, compared to 2.4 GHz for our MacBook. But the Asus had a larger screen, a more sophisticated graphics card and an extra gig of RAM.

All that extra RAM may seem to give an advantage to the PCs. Vista, however, is a noted memory hog, so throwing more RAM into PC computers is probably less of a perform ance booster for manufacturers than it is a new baseline hardware specification.

Before we pulled out our stopwatches, we turned to two industry-standard, cross-platform benchmarking tools—Geekbench from Primate Labs and Cinebench from Maxon—to get third-party results. We ran both benchmarking programs on our Mac and PC desktop and laptop computers before our testers got their dirty little hands on the equipment to ensure that no confounding software could poison the results.

These benchmarks are reliable indicators of performance, but the numbers feel somewhat meaningless to ordinary users. Which is why we created our own suite of tests to meas ure the speed of everyday tasks. We logged boot-up and shutdown times, and launch times for the Internet browser and media player built into each operating system, as well as for common applications such as Microsoft Word and Adobe Photoshop. We tested how long it took for each computer to rip a CD and install a few big software suites. The laptops were forced to play the longest movie we could find (Saving Private Ryan—2 hours, 49 minutes) until they wheezed, sputtered and shut down. Finally, we put all four computers through a stress test. We ran three video sources (a YouTube clip, a DVD and an .avi file), DivX encoding, instant messaging, Word, Adobe Acrobat and a spyware scan simultaneously—then retimed our launch of Photoshop.

The results gave us a clear winner in the performance categories, but the big surprise was how little difference we found in user preferences. Turns out, both platforms are capable and easy to use, but only one was the victor.


iMac | $1499

iMac 20in running iMovie

SPECS

Hardware 20-in. screen, 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 1 GB DDR2 RAM, 320 GB hard drive, built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi, 8x CD/DVD burner, remote control, ATI Radeon HD 2600 graphics card.
Software OS X Leopard, iLife '08 (iTunes, iPhoto, GarageBand, etc.), Front Row, iWork (30-day trial).

USER RATING

Design TKTKTK
Ergonomics TKTKTK
Internet surfing TKTKTK
Digital photo management TKTKTK
iWork TKTKTK
Front Row (movies, music, etc.) TKTKTK
Overall TKTKTK

SPEED TEST | Click here for detailed benchmark scores

Boot Average startup 28.7 sec.
Average shutdown 4.0 sec.
Install Microsoft Office 4 min. 17 sec.
Adobe Creative Suite 3 31 min. 44 sec.
Program Launch Safari (Internet browser) 3.3 sec.
Microsoft Word 4.2 sec.
Adobe Photoshop 4.0 sec.
Stress-launch Photoshop (w/ 8 apps running) 21.36 sec.
CD rip 3 min. 35 sec.



Gateway One | $1800

Gateway One

SPECS

Hardware 19-in. screen, 2.0 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 3 GB DDR2 RAM, 500 GB hard drive, built-in Wi-Fi, 8x CD/DVD burner, remote control, ATI Radeon HD 2600 graphics card.
Software Windows Vista Home Premium, Microsoft Works 8.5, Media Center, Microsoft Office (60-day trial).

USER RATING

Design TKTKTK
Ergonomics TKTKTK
Internet surfing TKTKTK
Digital photo management TKTKTK
Works TKTKTK
Media Center (movies, music, etc.) TKTKTK
Overall TKTKTK

SPEED TEST | Click here for detailed benchmark scores

Boot Average startup 1 min. 13 sec.
Average shutdown 44.3 sec.
Install Microsoft Office 6 min. 25 sec.
Adobe Creative Suite 3 25 min. 45 sec.
Program Launch Internet Explorer 6.3 sec.
Microsoft Word 5.2 sec.
Adobe Photoshop 5.5 sec.
Stress-launch Photoshop (w/ 8 apps running) 40.0 sec.
CD rip 3 min. 35 sec.


MacBook* | $1299

* As tested on an Apple MacBook containing an Intel Penryn processor. Because the new Penryn version of the MacBook was not available at press time for the May 2008 print edition of PM, the test results appearing in the magazine reflect the previous version of the MacBook. to see the non-Penryn MacBook results that appeared in the magazine.
MacBook

SPECS

Hardware 13.3-in. screen, 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo (Penryn); 3GB DDR2 RAM, 160 GB hard drive, 8x CD/DVD burner, built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
Software OS X Leopard, iLife '08 (iTunes, iPhoto, GarageBand, etc.), Front Row, iWork (30-day trial).
Weight 5 pounds

BATTERY TEST

With the DVD drive spinning and screen at full brightness, the MacBook made it through our movie, but fell short of Apple's stated 6-hour battery life: 3 hr. 34 min.

USER RATING

Design TKTKTK
Ergonomics TKTKTK
Internet surfing TKTKTK
Digital photo management TKTKTK
iWork TKTKTK
Media Center (movies, music, etc.) TKTKTK
Overall TKTKTK

SPEED TEST | Click here for detailed benchmark scores

Boot Average startup 41.6 sec.
Average shutdown 3.9 sec.
Install Microsoft Office 2 min. 57 sec.
Adobe Creative Suite 3 34 min. 54 sec.
Program Launch Microsoft Word 5.3 sec.
Adobe Photoshop 4.1 sec.
Stress-launch Photoshop (w/ 8 apps running) 16.2 sec.
CD rip 5 min. 49 sec.



Asus M51SR | $1299

ASUS M51SR

SPECS

Hardware 15.4-in. screen, 2.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor, 2 GB DDR2 RAM, 250 GB hard drive, ATI Radeon HD 2400 graphics card, 8x CD/DVD burner, built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
Software Microsoft Vista Home Premium, Works, Media Center, Office (30-day trial).
Weight 6.5 pounds

BATTERY TEST

Many users liked the Asus’s 15.4-in. screen, but that large display is a drain on the battery. The Asus couldn’t make it through our 2-hour, 49-minute movie: 1 hr. 30 min.

USER RATING

Design TKTKTK
Ergonomics TKTKTK
Internet surfing TKTKTK
Digital photo management TKTKTK
Works TKTKTK
Media Center (movies, music, etc.) TKTKTK
Overall TKTKTK

SPEED TEST | Click here for detailed benchmark scores

Boot Average startup 1 min. 51 sec.
Average shutdown 25.4 sec.
Install Microsoft Office 4 min. 46 sec.
Adobe Creative Suite 3 21 min.
Program Launch Microsoft Word 6.2 sec.
Adobe Photoshop 5.2 sec.
Stress-launch Photoshop (w/ 8 apps running) 25.5 sec.
CD rip 3 min. 9 sec.


The Verdict: Apple

Mac: In both the laptop and desktop showdowns, Apple’s computers were the winners. Oddly, the big difference didn’t come in our user ratings, where we expected the famously friendly Mac interface to shine. Our respondents liked the look and feel of both operating systems but had a slight preference toward OS X. In our speed trials, however, Leopard OS trounced Vista in all-important tasks such as boot-up, shutdown and program-launch times. We even tested Vista on the Macs using Apple’s platform-switching Boot Camp software—and found that both Apple computers ran Vista faster than our PCs did.



PC: Simply put, Vista proved to be a more sluggish operating system than Leopard. Our PCs installed some software faster, but in general they were slower in our time trials. Plus, both PCs showed weaker performance on third-party benchmarks than the Macs. Our biggest surprise, however, was that PCs were not the relative bargains we expected them to be. The Asus M51sr costs the same as a MacBook, while the Gateway One actually costs $300 more than an iMac. That means for the price of the Gateway you could buy an iMac, boost its hard drive to match the Gateway’s, purchase a copy of Vista to boot—and still save $100.



Detailed Benchmark Scores: Desktops

Benchmark Test iMac 20-in screen;
2.2 GHz Core 2 Duo;
1GB DDR2
Gateway One
2.0GHz Core 2 Duo;
3GB DDR2
Geekbench
Overall 3180 (2651) 1903
Integer 2766 (3398) 2324
Floating Point 4460 (2675) 1713
Memory 2299 (1720) 1597
Stream 1916 (1819) 1707
Cinebench
1 CPU 2619 (2429) 1979
2 CPUs 4840 (4641) 3739
Graphics 4819 (3834) 2913
*Scores in parentheses are for Macs running Vista in Boot Camp.


Detailed Benchmark Scores: Laptops

Benchmark Test MacBook 2.2 GHz
Core 2 Duo; 1GB DDR2
(Out of production)
MacBook 2.4 GHz
Core 2 Duo
(Penryn); 3GB DDR2
Asus M51 2.2 GHz
Core 2 Duo;
2GB DDR2
Geekbench
Overall 2885 (2465) 3156 (2657) 2445
Integer 2536 (3099) 2734 (3421) 3102
Floating Point 3959 (2429) 4395 (2660) 2444
Memory 2156 (1730) 2378 (1785) 1636
Stream 1809 (1850) 1853 (1717) 1772
Cinebench
1 CPU 2409 2741 (2561) 2214
2 CPUs 4468 5216 (4838) 4198
Graphics 2027 2040 (835) 2495
*Scores in parentheses are for Macs running Vista in Boot Camp.




TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
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To: doodad

Mac users don’t know how to handle the sorts of crises that Windows users find routine. Hmmmm.... Now what does THAT say?


21 posted on 04/16/2008 5:18:57 AM PDT by dangus
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To: texas booster

>> Will she even need an Office type program? <<

Oddly, I used Macs last year for the first time in quite a while. I was shocked to find that MS Office ran better on Macs than on Windows. All I can figure is that MS knows it has to compete if it wants to sell Office to Mac users.

Unless you have use for Access (a program which is underused in homes and small businesses), OpenOffice is comparable to MS Office... but it’s available for free! (openoffice.com)


22 posted on 04/16/2008 5:24:24 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangerdoc; Swordmaker
Have you posted anything not Apple related???

Not since Apple got a patent on the electric universe and bought the Shroud of Turin.

= )

23 posted on 04/16/2008 5:28:55 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: dangus
Mac users don’t know how to handle the sorts of crises that Windows users find routine. Hmmmm.... Now what does THAT say?

It isn't that so much as it is a lack of effort. When I help a Mac user, "I don't know" is the operative phrase. Both types of machines can have issues, but I find that PC users will at least try before picking up the phone. When I ask a Mac user to verify something for me, since I don't use a Mac on a regular basis, the response is "where is that?" In their defense, I would say that Apple hides many things from the user that would be of help; I guess to protect them from themselves. Just an observation from a weary support guy.

24 posted on 04/16/2008 5:30:37 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Vinnie

I run NOD 32 on my Laptop and home server—I actually forget it’s even there. I switched to it from McAfee which used to bring my laptop to a crawl.


25 posted on 04/16/2008 5:40:47 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: KoRn

I use the free AVG. I used to use McAfee and Norton before that and would occasionally get a virus they missed or coldnt’ handle. I have had AVG for much longer than I had both of the others together and have not had any virus problem with it at all.


26 posted on 04/16/2008 5:56:03 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: KoRn

I am still using W2k and do not plan to “upgrade” even to XP.


27 posted on 04/16/2008 5:58:46 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: texas booster
Will she even need an Office type program?

I don't have MS Office on my computers.I miss Word about 10 percent of the time I use TextEdit. OpenOffice-- open source freeware-- works pretty well on my Intel machine, although MS Office is still a little bit better.

Is MS Office worth the price? For me, no. For some probably, yes..

28 posted on 04/16/2008 6:25:11 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: Swordmaker

It took me about 3 minutes in front of an iMac for me to
ditch Windows forever. I think if most people would use
one for a few minutes, they would follow suit.


29 posted on 04/16/2008 6:25:50 AM PDT by Verbosus
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To: dangus; doodad

It says that PC users are more experienced in solving problems because their computers FU a lot more.


30 posted on 04/16/2008 6:28:20 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: texas booster

AutoCAD isn’t available for OS X. You’d have to go virtual or Boot Camp, or forget buying a Mac.

Photoshop was born on the Mac.

You can get MS Office, Apple’s own iWork suite or install the free Neo Office (Mac version of OpenOffice).

The F@H SMP client works.


31 posted on 04/16/2008 6:35:40 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: VanDeKoik
Am I the only one who sees a close similarity between vocal Mac users and Obama supporters?

On the outside maybe, but underneath it's entirely different. Most Mac users I know are former Windows users who switched and are so happy they want to let others know there's a better way. I still use Windows more than Mac, and it constantly reinforces how much better the Mac is. It's a practical, logical thing.

Obama supporters are just blinded by the charisma or the ideology.

32 posted on 04/16/2008 7:07:18 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Damifino
I think of someone that uses their machine (I suppose Mac users don't call their personal interface device a machine) as an entertainment outlet, more like a TV. It's probably a stereotype, but it is my perception.

There are a few large deviations, most notably the creative professional using the design apps, the pro video editor, the college kid and the old-time UNIX guys who switched because now there's finally a usable UNIX.

Of course Windows has been marketed as the entertainment outlet for years and even has a special version for it, Windows Media Center.

33 posted on 04/16/2008 7:11:31 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Locomotive Breath
It says that PC users are more experienced in solving problems because their computers FU a lot more.

Nah, it is something else. The execs with their crackberries are the same. They don't bother to learn; it is all blackbox to them. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing about Macs and have a G5 at home for my daughter's art work. It is just an observation about the users. And Macs do have their own issues from time to time.

34 posted on 04/16/2008 7:13:01 AM PDT by doodad
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To: dangus
I was shocked to find that MS Office ran better on Macs than on Windows. All I can figure is that MS knows it has to compete if it wants to sell Office to Mac users

The Mac Office developers have pride in their work and have a standing challenge to always do better than the Windows Office developers. They'are a tiny enclave in the huge Microsoft, so they have something to prove.

35 posted on 04/16/2008 7:16:01 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: doodad
I would say that Apple hides many things from the user that would be of help; I guess to protect them from themselves.

I was a bit annoyed at this at first. For example you have to drop into terminal (UNIX command line) to fine-tune the power saver settings. OTOH, I understand it's the user interface concept of progressive disclosure, not hitting the user with a wall of options and capabilities all at once. Exactly where the line is drawn will appear to some people as too simplistic, and possibly others as still to complex.

36 posted on 04/16/2008 7:21:05 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: doodad
I would say that Apple hides many things from the user that would be of help

I'm still trying to find where that darned 'any key' is.

37 posted on 04/16/2008 7:22:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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39 posted on 04/16/2008 7:27:23 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: texas booster
Right now, according to the Autocad web site, there's nothing for the Mac except a program called Sketchbook Pro. The original Autocad is available for 2000/XP/Vista, but the architectural, MEP and Mechanical versions support W2K or XP only.

Whether she needs Office or not depends on her. You can get the educational version of Office for Mac or PC for about $150, and it includes multiple installations.

The price on Autocad is pretty impressive. Four grand for the full version or $160 for a student version that expires in fourteen months.

40 posted on 04/16/2008 7:30:45 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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